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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@suse.cz,
	anton@enomsg.org, kmpark@infradead.org, hyunhee.kim@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vmpressure: implement strict mode
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:34:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130627173433.d0fc6ecd.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130628000201.GB15637@bbox>

On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 09:02:01 +0900 Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:02:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:17:12 -0400 Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Currently, an eventfd is notified for the level it's registered for
> > > _plus_ higher levels.
> > > 
> > > This is a problem if an application wants to implement different
> > > actions for different levels. For example, an application might want
> > > to release 10% of its cache on level low, 50% on medium and 100% on
> > > critical. To do this, an application has to register a different
> > > eventfd for each pressure level. However, fd low is always going to
> > > be notified and and all fds are going to be notified on level critical.
> > > 
> > > Strict mode solves this problem by strictly notifiying an eventfd
> > > for the pressure level it registered for. This new mode is optional,
> > > by default we still notify eventfds on higher levels too.
> > > 
> > 
> > It didn't take long for this simple interface to start getting ugly :(
> > And having the fd operate in different modes is ugly.
> > 
> > Can we instead pass the level in the event payload?
> 
> You mean userland have to look the result of read(2) to confirm what
> current level is and if it's no interest for us, we don't do any reaction.

Something like that.  It's flexible, simple, keeps policy in userspace.

> If so, userland daemon would receive lots of events which are no interest.

"lots"?  If vmpressure is generating events at such a high frequency that
this matters then it's already busted?


  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-28  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-27  3:17 [PATCH v2] vmpressure: implement strict mode Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-27  9:26 ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 13:34   ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-27 14:59     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 15:53   ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-27 17:42     ` Michal Hocko
2013-06-27 15:44 ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-27 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28  0:02   ` Minchan Kim
2013-06-28  0:34     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-06-28  0:58       ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28  1:13         ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28  4:34           ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28  5:07             ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 14:00               ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 16:57                 ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 17:09                   ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 18:25                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:45                       ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 18:58                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:45                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28 18:55                       ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-06-28 19:44                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-29  0:56                           ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-01  8:22                             ` Hyunhee Kim
2013-07-02  4:32                               ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-02  8:29                                 ` Hyunhee Kim
2013-07-02 13:29                             ` Michal Hocko
2013-07-02 14:59                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-07-02 17:24                               ` Anton Vorontsov
2013-07-02 18:38                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28  5:24             ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-28 13:43             ` Luiz Capitulino
2013-06-28  9:04           ` Minchan Kim

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