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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	prarit@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Allow NR_CPUS=1024
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 07:53:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131104065343.GC13030@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131103155729.GB9944@hansolo.jdub.homelinux.org>


* Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:21:32AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > * Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The current range for SMP configs is 2 - 512, or a full 4096 in the case 
> > > > of MAXSMP.  There are machines that have 1024 CPUs in them today and 
> > > > configuring a kernel for that means you are forced to set MAXSMP.  This 
> > > > adds additional unnecessary overhead.  While that overhead might be 
> > > > considered tiny for large machines, it isn't necessarily so if you are 
> > > > building a kernel that runs across a wide variety of machines.  We 
> > > > increase the range to 1024 to help with this.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/x86/Kconfig | 2 +-
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/Kconfig b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > > > index f67e839..d726b2d 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/Kconfig
> > > > @@ -825,7 +825,7 @@ config MAXSMP
> > > >  config NR_CPUS
> > > >  	int "Maximum number of CPUs" if SMP && !MAXSMP
> > > >  	range 2 8 if SMP && X86_32 && !X86_BIGSMP
> > > > -	range 2 512 if SMP && !MAXSMP
> > > > +	range 2 1024 if SMP && !MAXSMP
> > > >  	default "1" if !SMP
> > > >  	default "4096" if MAXSMP
> > > >  	default "32" if SMP && (X86_NUMAQ || X86_SUMMIT || X86_BIGSMP || X86_ES7000)
> > > 
> > > Any reason not to allow it to go up to 4096? The original concern was 
> > > that CPUS=4096 wasn't working very well and you had to select MAXSMP 
> > > deliberately and keep all the pieces.
> 
> No real reason to not allow all the way to 4096, no.  I just started
> small as I wanted 1024 specifically, and this is the simplest way to
> achieve that.
> 
> > The other reason was CONFIG_CPUMASK_OFFSTACK: with 4096 CPUs a cpumask is 
> > 512 bytes, too large to be kept on the kernel stack.
> > 
> > MAXSMP forces CONFIG_CPUMASK_OFFSTACK so there's no such concern there.
> > 
> > With 1024 CPUs a single cpumask is 128 bytes - rather significant as well. 
> > With 512 CPUs it's 64 bytes - borderline.
> > 
> > So I think a better solution would be to allow an increase above 512 CPUs 
> > only if CONFIG_CPUMASK_OFFSTACK is also enabled.
> 
> OK, that makes sense.  So in this scenario, we could probably either:
> 
> a) do away with MAXSMP entirely and just depend on 
> CONFIG_CPUMASK_OFFSTACK.
> 
> b) make MAXSMP something even higher than 4096.  Like 5120 or 6144, etc.
> 
> Which would you prefer?  Either is easy enough to code up, I just need 
> to know which I should shoot for.

Why touch MAXSMP at all? It's really just a shortcut for 'configure the 
kernel silly large', via a single option, nothing else. You are not forced 
to use it and it should not affect configurability of NR_CPUS.

What we _really_ want here is to fix NR_CPUS setting: to extend its range 
and to enforce that NR_CPUS cannot be set larger than 512 without setting 
CONFIG_CPUMASK_OFFSTACK.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-04  6:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-01 14:11 [PATCH] x86: Allow NR_CPUS=1024 Josh Boyer
2013-11-03 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 10:21   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-03 15:57     ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-03 17:43       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-04  6:51         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 16:31           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-04  6:53       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-11-04 14:01         ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-04 14:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 14:16             ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-04 14:54               ` Prarit Bhargava
2013-11-04 15:56               ` Russ Anderson
2013-11-04 17:48                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 19:08                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-04 20:11                     ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-04 22:50                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-05  6:25                         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-05  6:31                           ` Li Zefan
2013-11-03 14:29   ` Prarit Bhargava
2013-11-03 14:42     ` Russ Anderson
2013-11-05 14:37 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] x86: Allow higher NR_CPUS values Josh Boyer
2013-11-05 14:38   ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: Increase MAXSMP CPU count to 8192 Josh Boyer
2013-11-06  5:56     ` [PATCH v2 " Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:10       ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-06 11:20     ` [tip:x86/cpu] x86/cpu: Increase max " tip-bot for Josh Boyer
2013-11-06  7:15   ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] x86: Allow higher NR_CPUS values Ingo Molnar
2013-11-06 14:12     ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-06 15:04       ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-06 15:21     ` [PATCH v3] x86/cpu: " Josh Boyer
2013-11-07  9:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-07 13:51         ` Josh Boyer
2013-11-06 11:20   ` [tip:x86/cpu] " tip-bot for Josh Boyer

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