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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@tuxonice.net>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM / Sleep: Freeze filesystems during system suspend/hibernation
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 11:22:16 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219002216.GT31386@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131218140842.GA20488@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 03:08:42PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > I disagree - given the problem it is resolving leads to silent
> > > > filesystem corruption, this patch should be considered somewhat of a
> > > > priority to push...
> > > 
> > > Umm. Ok, I forgot what it does, really.
> > 
> > It ensures that the filesystem is in an quiescent state both in
> > memory and on disk, and it cannot be modified in memory or on disk
> > whilst the suspend image is being generated, or by log recovery
> > after a resume before the suspended image has been restored.
> 
> If someone attempts to run log recovery before resume, that's a bug
> and yes, it will corrupt filesystems. (Including ext3). Don't do that.

Freezing the filesystem prevents that accidental mount of the
filesystem from being an issue. It fixes a bug that:

> Documentation/power/swsusp.txt:
> 
>  * BIG FAT WARNING
>    *********************************************************
>  *
>  * If you touch anything on disk between suspend and resume...
>  *                              ...kiss your data goodbye.

Makes this a whole lot less dangerous.

> > > So... for few years now suspend corrupts data on XFS? And Fedora has
> > > the fix but it is not in mainline? That does not sound right...
> > 
> > The issues freezing the filesystem before the suspend image is
> > created affect every journalled filesystem linux supports, be
> > it XFS, ext4, reiser, btrfs, etc.
> 
> Did not it have some problems with ext3?

Please read more carefully: "affect every journalled filesystem
linux supports". So, ext3 is affected because it's a journalling
filesystem.  I didn't list every journalled filesystem Linux
supports - "etc" means there are more examples that aren't
explicitly listed.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-19  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-28 13:45 [RFC][PATCH] PM / Sleep: Freeze filesystems during system suspend/hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-28 21:23 ` Nigel Cunningham
2012-01-29 15:55 ` Martin Steigerwald
2012-01-29 19:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-29 16:28 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-29 19:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-30 23:24     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-30 20:00 ` Jan Kara
2012-01-30 21:05   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-30 21:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2012-01-31  0:03       ` Jan Kara
2012-01-30 23:58     ` Jan Kara
2012-02-01 13:36 ` Pavel Machek
2012-02-01 15:29   ` Alan Stern
2012-02-10  2:52     ` Jamie Lokier
2012-02-10  9:03       ` Jan Kara
2012-02-02  3:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2012-02-17 15:41 ` Josh Boyer
2012-02-17 18:33   ` Josh Boyer
2012-02-17 20:59     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-25 16:55       ` Josh Boyer
2012-05-25 19:13         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-17 16:03           ` Josh Boyer
2013-12-17 16:04             ` Josh Boyer
2013-12-17 23:08               ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-17 23:31                 ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18  0:01                   ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-18 12:39                     ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18 14:08                       ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-19  0:22                         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-12-21 23:33                           ` Pavel Machek
2013-12-23  3:48                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-12-18  0:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-18  1:00                 ` Josh Boyer
2013-12-18  1:16                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-12-18 12:31                     ` Josh Boyer
2013-12-18 21:40                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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