From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753413AbaBZUx0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:53:26 -0500 Received: from one.firstfloor.org ([193.170.194.197]:55618 "EHLO one.firstfloor.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750999AbaBZUxY (ORCPT ); Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:53:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 21:53:22 +0100 From: Andi Kleen To: David Ahern Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Andi Kleen , Stephane Eranian , "Yan, Zheng" , LKML , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] perf, x86: Haswell LBR call stack support Message-ID: <20140226205322.GM22728@two.firstfloor.org> References: <1392703661-15104-1-git-send-email-zheng.z.yan@intel.com> <530D53EF.9090706@amacapital.net> <20140226185513.GL22728@two.firstfloor.org> <530E3E47.8010205@gmail.com> <530E4B42.5090401@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <530E4B42.5090401@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > Is there some reason not to enable frame pointers? It makes code slower. Especially on Atom CPUs, where it causes pipeline stalls, but also to some degree on others, because you lose one register and spend a little bit of time setting it up, so making small functions more expensive. Another issue is that you can't enable it on a lot of existing libraries, sometimes not even with a recompile. For example glibc assembler functions do not support it at all, which is a very common case. They are designed to use dwarf, but in practice dwarf is very slow (perf has to save the stack for every sample) and in practice doesn't always work (too small stack saving, wrong annotations, out of date or broken dwarf library etc.) LBR callstack mode is not perfect either, and it has its own tradeoffs, but in many cases it seems to be a good and more efficient replacement for dwarf, when FP is not available. -Andi