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From: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xensource.com" <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"konrad.wilk@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org" 
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:50:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140331125026.0120eef7@hananiah.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09b41677-c9e7-4cd4-84a0-a1cb483d551d@email.android.com>

On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:26:10 -0800
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:

> Bullshit.  This should be a separate domain.

Thanks for top-posting, hpa...

> Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> >On 22/11/12 17:47, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> The other thing that should be considered here is how utterly 
> >> preposterous the notion of doing in-guest crash dumping is in a
> >system 
> >> that contains a hypervisor.  The reason for kdump is that on bare
> >metal 
> >> there are no other options, but in a hypervisor system the right
> >thing 
> >> should be for the hypervisor to do the dump (possibly spawning a
> >clean 
> >> I/O domain if the I/O domain is necessary to access the media.)
> >>
> >> There is absolutely no reason to have a crashkernel sitting around in
> >
> >> each guest, consuming memory, and possibly get corrupt.
> >>
> >> 	-hpa
> >>
> >
> >I agree that regular guests should not be using the kexec/kdump. 
> >However, this patch series is required for allowing a pvops kernel to
> >be
> >a crash kernel for Xen, which is very important from dom0/Xen's point
> >of
> >view.

In fact, a normal kernel is used for dumping, so it can handle both,
Dom0 crashes _and_ hypervisor crashes. If you wanted to address
hypervisor crashes, you'd have to allocate some space for that, too, so
you may view this "madness" as a way to conserve resources.

The memory area is reserved by the Xen hypervisor, and only the extents
are passed down to the Dom0 kernel. In other words, there is indeed no
physical mapping for this area.

Having said that, I see no reason why that physical mapping cannot be
created if it is needed.

Petr T

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-31 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-20 15:04 [PATCH v2 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04     ` [PATCH v2 03/11] xen: Introduce architecture independent data for kexec/kdump Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04       ` [PATCH v2 04/11] x86/xen: Introduce architecture dependent " Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04         ` [PATCH v2 05/11] x86/xen: Register resources required by kexec-tools Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04           ` [PATCH v2 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04             ` [PATCH v2 07/11] x86/xen: Add x86_64 " Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04               ` [PATCH v2 08/11] x86/xen: Add kexec/kdump makefile rules Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] drivers/xen: Export vmcoreinfo through sysfs Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:04                     ` [PATCH v2 11/11] x86: Add Xen kexec control code size check to linker script Daniel Kiper
2012-11-20 15:52     ` [PATCH v2 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Jan Beulich
2012-11-20 16:40   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec_ops struct Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-21 10:52     ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-22 12:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-22 17:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  9:56           ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:53             ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-11-22 17:47         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-22 18:07           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-22 22:26             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-31 10:50               ` Petr Tesarik [this message]
2012-11-23  0:12           ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  1:34             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:38             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-23  1:56               ` Andrew Cooper
2012-11-23  9:53                 ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 10:37                   ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:51                     ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-11-23 11:13                       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 10:51                     ` Jan Beulich
2012-11-23 11:08                       ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23  9:47         ` Daniel Kiper
2012-11-23 20:24           ` Eric W. Biederman

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