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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
To: Armin Rigo <arigo@tunes.org>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 0/2] remap_file_pages() decommission
Date: Thu,  8 May 2014 19:02:05 +0300 (EEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140508160205.A0EC7E009B@blue.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMSv6X0+3-uNeiyEPD3sA5dA6Af_M+BT0aeVpa3qMv1aga0q9g@mail.gmail.com>

Armin Rigo wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Here is a note from the PyPy project (mentioned earlier in this
> thread, and at https://lwn.net/Articles/587923/ ).
> 
> Yes, we use remap_file_pages() heavily on the x86-64 architecture.
> However, the individual calls to remap_file_pages() are not
> performance-critical, so it is easy to switch to using multiple
> mmap()s.  We need to perform more measurements to know exactly what
> the overhead would be, in terms notably of kernel memory.
> 
> However, an issue with that approach is the upper bound on the number
> of VMAs.  By default, it is not large enough.  Right now, it is
> possible to remap say 10% of the individual pages from an anonymous
> mmap of multiple GBs in size; but doing so with individual calls to
> mmap hits this arbitrary limit.

The limit is not totaly random. We use ELF format for coredumps and ELF has
limitation (16-bit field) on number of sections it can store.

With ELF extended numbering we can bypass 16-bit limit, but some userspace
can be surprised by that.

> I have no particular weight to give
> for or against keeping remap_file_pages() in the kernel, but if it is
> removed or emulated, it would be a plus if the programs would run on a
> machine with the default configuration --- i.e. if you remove or
> emulate remap_file_pages(), please increase the default limit as well.

It's fine to me. Andrew?

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-08 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-08 12:41 [PATCHv2 0/2] remap_file_pages() decommission Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-08 12:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: mark remap_file_pages() syscall as deprecated Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-06-12  5:48   ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-06-12  9:40     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-06-12  9:44       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-05-08 12:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: replace remap_file_pages() syscall with emulation Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-08 21:57   ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-12 15:11     ` Sasha Levin
2014-05-12 17:05       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-14 20:52         ` Sasha Levin
2014-05-14 21:17           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-14 21:40             ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-13  7:32       ` Armin Rigo
2014-05-13 12:57         ` Sasha Levin
2014-05-08 15:35 ` [PATCHv2 0/2] remap_file_pages() decommission Linus Torvalds
2014-05-08 15:44 ` Armin Rigo
2014-05-08 16:02   ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2014-05-08 16:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-09 14:05       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-09 15:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-05-09 18:19           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-12 12:43           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2014-05-12 14:59             ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-12  3:36   ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-12  5:16     ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2014-05-12  7:50     ` Armin Rigo

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