From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756318AbaEIJsY (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 May 2014 05:48:24 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:46676 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751494AbaEIJsW (ORCPT ); Fri, 9 May 2014 05:48:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 11:48:13 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: David Miller Cc: josh@joshtriplett.org, andi@firstfloor.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/24] net, diet: Make TCP metrics optional Message-ID: <20140509094813.GC4877@xo-6d-61-c0.localdomain> References: <20140506032114.GP2382@two.firstfloor.org> <20140505.232327.578134514220748085.davem@davemloft.net> <20140506155703.GA20391@cloud> <20140506.115941.428706504757835279.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20140506.115941.428706504757835279.davem@davemloft.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue 2014-05-06 11:59:41, David Miller wrote: > From: josh@joshtriplett.org > Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 08:57:03 -0700 > > > On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:23:27PM -0400, David Miller wrote: > >> From: Andi Kleen > >> Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 05:21:14 +0200 > >> > >> > What parts would you remove to get the foot print down for a 2MB > >> > single purpose machine? > >> > >> I wouldn't use Linux, end of story. > >> > >> Maybe two decades ago, but not now, those days are over. > > > > That's a self-fulfilling prophecy: > > Making 2MB RAM machines today makes no sense at all. > > The lowest end dirt cheap smartphone, something which fits on > someone's pocket, has gigabytes of ram. Low end smartphone is quite high-end device :-). It only has to run for few days on big battery. I have programmable watch with <64K RAM. Yes, that one runs for months on battery. > The only entity looking backwards are the people making these > improperly provisioned systems. There's nothing improper about small ammount of RAM to save power. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html