From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Dave Anderson <anderson@redhat.com>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 07:44:57 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140618144457.GF4669@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1406181638360.2303@pobox.suse.cz>
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 04:41:09PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > > - both RCU stall detector and 'echo l > sysrq-trigger' can (and we've
> > > seen it happening for real) cause a complete, undebuggable, silent hang
> > > of machine (deadlock in NMI context)
> >
> > I could easily add an option to RCU to allow people to tell it not to
> > use NMIs to dump the stack. Would that help?
>
> Well, that would make unfortunately the information provided by RCU stall
> detector rather useless ... workqueue-based stack dumping is very unlikely
> to point its finger to the real offender, as it'd be coming way too late.
I would not use workqueues, but rather have the CPU detecting the
stall grovel through the other CPUs' stacks, which is what I do now for
architectures that don't support NMI-based stack dumps. Would that be
a reasonable approach?
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-18 14:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-09 9:10 [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] printk: rename struct printk_log to printk_msg Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] printk: allow to handle more log buffers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] printk: rename "logbuf_lock" to "main_logbuf_lock" Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] printk: add NMI ring and cont buffers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:10 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] printk: allow to modify NMI log buffer size using boot parameter Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] printk: NMI safe printk Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] printk: right ordering of the cont buffers from NMI context Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] printk: try hard to print Oops message in " Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] printk: merge and flush NMI buffer predictably via IRQ work Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] printk: survive rotation of sequence numbers Petr Mladek
2014-05-09 9:11 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] printk: avoid staling when merging NMI log buffer Petr Mladek
2014-05-28 22:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] printk: safe printing in NMI context Jiri Kosina
2014-05-29 0:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-05-29 8:09 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-10 16:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-06-10 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-06-10 17:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-11 9:01 ` Petr Mládek
2014-06-18 11:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 14:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 14:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 14:44 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2014-06-18 14:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 15:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <CA+55aFwPgDC6gSEPfu3i-pA4f0ZbsTSvykxzX4sXMeLbdXuKrw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-06-18 16:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-18 16:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 20:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 21:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 21:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-18 21:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-06-18 23:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-30 8:13 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-30 10:10 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-06-10 16:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-06-12 11:50 ` Petr Mládek
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