From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753940AbaHLJOd (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:33 -0400 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:57475 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752264AbaHLJOc (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 05:14:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:14:28 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Andrey Utkin Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , hannes@stressinduktion.org, "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Reading large amounts from /dev/urandom broken Message-ID: <20140812091428.GA3950@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> References: <20140723151459.GA6673@thunk.org> <20140809074539.GA1467@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun 2014-08-10 14:51:08, Andrey Utkin wrote: > 2014-08-09 10:45 GMT+03:00 Pavel Machek : > > Warn about my quick benchmark? > > > > http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/quickbench.html > > > > I don't see what is insane about it. Yes, there might be more > > effective generators of random bits, but that is not the point, this > > is quick&dirty attempt at benchmark. > > > > Also people will use cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdX (and similar) to > > clean hard drives. There should be no need to warn about > > that. (Performance is going to be disk-limited anyway). > > I believe "cat /dev/urandom" doesn't result in reading with _block > size_ more than 32 MB. As it was already explained by Theodore, > currently single read() operation will return "short read" when > requested to give more than 32 MB at once. You still can read more in > consecuential reading acts. Well, I still don't think this behaviour change is a good idea. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html