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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net, patches@linaro.org,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Anton Vorontsov <anton.vorontsov@linaro.org>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@android.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 03/19] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:37:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140819173742.GG30401@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1408466769-20004-4-git-send-email-daniel.thompson@linaro.org>

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 05:45:53PM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> +int register_fiq_nmi_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb)
> +{
> +	return atomic_notifier_chain_register(&fiq_nmi_chain, nb);
> +}
> +
> +asmlinkage void __exception_irq_entry fiq_nmi_handler(struct pt_regs *regs)
> +{
> +	struct pt_regs *old_regs = set_irq_regs(regs);
> +
> +	nmi_enter();
> +	atomic_notifier_call_chain(&fiq_nmi_chain, (unsigned long)regs, NULL);
> +	nmi_exit();
> +	set_irq_regs(old_regs);
> +}

Really not happy with this.  What happens if a FIQ occurs while we're
inside register_fiq_nmi_notifier() - more specifically inside
atomic_notifier_chain_register() ?

This is how easy it is to end up with a deadlock-able situation with
FIQs, and it is why I said:

| > 2. Have default trap handler call an RCU notifier chain to allow it to
| >    hook up with "normal" code without any hard coding (kgdb, IPI
| >    handling, etc)
| 
| Maybe... that sounds like it opens up FIQ for general purpose use which
| is something I want to avoid - I've little motivation to ensure that
| everyone plays by the rules.  Given the choice, I'd rather maintain our
| present stance that using FIQs is hard and requires a lot of thought.

You've just proven my point.

So, what I want is to make FIQs hard to use.  No notifier chain at all
please, people can't be trusted to know all the details (even if they
do know the details, it's just been proven that it's incredibly difficult
to do it right.)

What I instead want to see is that users get added to the above code
fragment with #ifdef's around the calls - that way ensuring that people
have to modify this file, and therefore /should/ be copying me with
their patches.  That means less chance for someone to sneak a change
in by merely calling some register function without first having to
copy this mailing list.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-19 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 194+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2014-06-24 15:18 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 15:18   ` [PATCH v6 1/4] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 15:44     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-24 15:58       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 15:18   ` [PATCH v6 2/4] arm: fiq: Allow EOI to be communicated to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 15:46     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-24 15:18   ` [PATCH v6 3/4] ARM: Move some macros from entry-armv to entry-header Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 15:53     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-24 15:18   ` [PATCH v6 4/4] ARM: Add KGDB/KDB FIQ debugger generic code Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 16:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26  9:54       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30 13:54         ` Daniel Thompson
2014-06-24 16:22     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-26 12:48       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30  8:53   ` [PATCH v7 0/4] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30  8:53     ` [PATCH v7 1/4] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30  8:53     ` [PATCH v7 2/4] arm: fiq: Allow EOI to be communicated to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30  8:53     ` [PATCH v7 3/4] ARM: Move some macros from entry-armv to entry-header Daniel Thompson
2014-06-30  8:53     ` [PATCH v7 4/4] ARM: Add KGDB/KDB FIQ debugger generic code Daniel Thompson
2014-07-10  8:03     ` [PATCH v8 0/4] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-07-10  8:03       ` [PATCH v8 1/4] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-07-10  8:03       ` [PATCH v8 2/4] arm: fiq: Allow ACK and EOI to be passed to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-07-10  8:03       ` [PATCH v8 3/4] ARM: Move some macros from entry-armv to entry-header Daniel Thompson
2014-07-10  8:03       ` [PATCH v8 4/4] ARM: Add KGDB/KDB FIQ debugger generic code Daniel Thompson
2014-08-13 21:45         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-08-14 10:48           ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-14 11:15             ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] arm: FIQ IPI support Daniel Thompson
2014-08-14 11:15               ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] arm: smp: Introduce a special IPI signalled using FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-14 11:15               ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] arm: kgdb: Add support for IPI FIQ roundup Daniel Thompson
2014-08-14 11:15               ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-14 12:36             ` [PATCH v8 4/4] ARM: Add KGDB/KDB FIQ debugger generic code Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-08-14 15:02               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-14 13:51       ` [PATCH v8 0/4] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Harro Haan
2014-07-15  9:41         ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-15 13:04           ` Harro Haan
2014-07-15 14:52             ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-15 15:59               ` Harro Haan
2014-07-15 17:08                 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-16 17:15                   ` Harro Haan
2014-07-17  9:01                     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-15 18:45           ` Marek Vasut
2014-07-16 12:54             ` Daniel Thompson
2014-07-16 17:21               ` Harro Haan
2014-07-17  9:20                 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40       ` [PATCH v9 00/16] " Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40         ` [PATCH v9 01/16] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40         ` [PATCH v9 02/16] arm: fiq: Allow ACK and EOI to be passed to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40         ` [PATCH v9 03/16] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40         ` [PATCH v9 04/16] arm: smp: Introduce a special IPI signalled using FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 13:40         ` [PATCH v9 05/16] arm: KGDB/KDB FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45         ` [PATCH v10 00/19] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 01/19] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 02/19] arm: fiq: Allow ACK and EOI to be passed to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 03/19] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 17:37             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-08-19 18:12               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-28 15:01                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-08-28 15:43                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-28 15:54                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-28 16:15                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-02 11:03                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 11:36                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-02 11:49                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 14:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-09-02 16:42                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-03 10:21                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-03 19:34                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-04  9:09                           ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04  9:45                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-04 10:04                               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 04/19] arm: smp: Introduce a special IPI signalled using FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 05/19] arm: KGDB/KDB FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 06/19] irqchip: gic: Provide support for interrupt grouping Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 07/19] irqchip: gic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 08/19] irqchip: gic: Remove spin locks from eoi_irq Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:45           ` [PATCH v10 09/19] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 10/19] irqchip: gic: Group 0 workaround Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 11/19] irqchip: vic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 12/19] serial: kgdb_nmi: No CON_ENABLED by default Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 13/19] serial: amba-pl011: Use container_of() to get uart_amba_port Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 14/19] serial: amba-pl011: Move pl011_hwinit() Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 15/19] serial: amba-pl011: Pass FIQ information to KGDB Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 16/19] serial: asc: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 17/19] serial: asc: Adopt readl_/writel_relaxed() Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 18/19] serial: imx: clean up imx_poll_get_char() Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 16:46           ` [PATCH v10 19/19] serial: imx: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00           ` [PATCH v11 00/19] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 01/19] arm: fiq: Add callbacks to manage FIQ routings Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 18:51               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-03  0:03               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-03  8:27                 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 02/19] arm: fiq: Allow ACK and EOI to be passed to the intc Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 03/19] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 04/19] arm: smp: Introduce a special IPI signalled using FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 05/19] arm: KGDB/KDB FIQ support Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 06/19] irqchip: gic: Provide support for interrupt grouping Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 19:33               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-02 21:36                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-03  9:44                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-03  9:28                 ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 07/19] irqchip: gic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 19:36               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 08/19] irqchip: gic: Remove spin locks from eoi_irq Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 09/19] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 10/19] irqchip: gic: Group 0 workaround Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 11/19] irqchip: vic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 19:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 12/19] serial: kgdb_nmi: No CON_ENABLED by default Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 13/19] serial: amba-pl011: Use container_of() to get uart_amba_port Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 14/19] serial: amba-pl011: Move pl011_hwinit() Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 15/19] serial: amba-pl011: Pass FIQ information to KGDB Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 16/19] serial: asc: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 17/19] serial: asc: Adopt readl_/writel_relaxed() Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:42               ` [STLinux Kernel] " Peter Griffin
2014-09-02 13:55               ` Maxime Coquelin
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 18/19] serial: imx: clean up imx_poll_get_char() Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 13:00             ` [PATCH v11 19/19] serial: imx: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-09-02 23:02             ` [PATCH v11 00/19] arm: KGDB NMI/FIQ support Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-03  9:02               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-03 10:06                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-09-03 10:30                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03             ` [PATCH v1 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 1/6] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 18:57                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-09-05  9:03                   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 18:04                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-09-08 13:22                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 2/6] arm: smp: Introduce a non-maskable IPI Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 3/6] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 4/6] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 5/6] irqchip: gic: Group 0 workaround Daniel Thompson
2014-09-04 16:03               ` [PATCH v1 6/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33               ` [PATCH v2 0/5] " Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33                 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] ARM: remove unused do_unexp_fiq() function Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33                 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33                 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33                 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 16:50                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-08 11:03                     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-05 15:33                 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                   ` [PATCH v3 1/5] ARM: remove unused do_unexp_fiq() function Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                   ` [PATCH v3 2/5] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                   ` [PATCH v3 3/5] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:49                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-09-08 15:57                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                   ` [PATCH v3 4/5] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 15:28                   ` [PATCH v3 5/5] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 16:23                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-09  8:24                       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-14 11:53                         ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-08 16:24                   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-09  8:26                     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                   ` [PATCH v4 0/6] " Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 1/6] ARM: remove unused do_unexp_fiq() function Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 2/6] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 3/6] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 4/6] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 5/6] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-09-09 14:15                     ` [PATCH v4 6/6] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                     ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 1/6] ARM: remove unused do_unexp_fiq() function Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 2/6] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-12 17:03                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-12 17:07                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-13 12:01                           ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-12 17:08                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-12 17:14                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-12 17:19                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-12 17:23                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-14  6:36                               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-14  8:45                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-14 11:27                               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-13 12:03                           ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 3/6] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 4/6] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 5/6] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-09-11 11:31                       ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v5 6/6] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 06/16] irqchip: gic: Provide support for interrupt grouping Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 07/16] irqchip: gic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 08/16] irqchip: gic: Remove spin locks from eoi_irq Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 09/16] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 10/16] irqchip: gic: Group 0 workaround Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:12       ` [PATCH v9 11/16] irqchip: vic: Add support for FIQ management Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:28       ` [PATCH v9 12/16] serial: amba-pl011: Pass FIQ information to KGDB Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 18:30         ` Peter Hurley
2014-08-19  9:08           ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-19 11:58             ` Peter Hurley
2014-08-19 12:51               ` Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:28       ` [PATCH v9 13/16] serial: asc: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:28       ` [PATCH v9 14/16] serial: asc: Adopt readl_/writel_relaxed() Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:28       ` [PATCH v9 15/16] serial: imx: clean up imx_poll_get_char() Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 14:28       ` [PATCH v9 16/16] serial: imx: Add support for KGDB's FIQ/NMI mode Daniel Thompson
2014-08-18 17:32         ` Dirk Behme

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