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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "Jon Medhurst (Tixy)" <tixy@linaro.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"David A. Long" <dave.long@linaro.org>,
	Taras Kondratiuk <taras.kondratiuk@linaro.org>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Pei Feiyue <peifeiyue@huawei.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] kprobes: arm: enable OPTPROBES for ARM 32
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:52:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140904105227.GC7156@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1409827235.3008.46.camel@linaro1.home>

On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 11:40:35AM +0100, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 11:30 +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:18:04AM +0100, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > > (2014/09/02 22:49), Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
> > > > 1. On SMP systems it's very slow because of kprobe's use of stop_machine
> > > > for applying and removing probes, this forces the system to idle and
> > > > wait for the next scheduler tick for each probe change.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, agreed. It seems that arm32 limitation of self-modifying code on SMP.
> > > I'm not sure how we can handle it, but I guess;
> > >  - for some processors which have better coherent cache for SMP, we can
> > >    atomically replace the breakpoint code with original code.
> > 
> > Except that it's not an architected breakpoint instruction, as I mentioned
> > before. It's also not really a property of the cache.
> > 
> > >  - Even if we get an "undefined instruction" exception, its handler can
> > >    ask kprobes if the address is under modifying or not. And if it is,
> > >    we can just return from the exception to retry the execution.
> > 
> > It's not as simple as that -- you could potentially see an interleaving of
> > the two instructions. The architecture is even broader than that:
> > 
> >  Concurrent modification and execution of instructions can lead to the
> >  resulting instruction performing any behavior that can be achieved by
> >  executing any sequence of instructions that can be executed from the
> >  same Exception level,
> > 
> > There are additional guarantees for some instructions (like the architected
> > BKPT instruction).
> 
> I should point out that the current implementation of kprobes doesn't
> use stop_machine because it's trying to meet the above architecture
> restrictions, and that arming kprobes (changing probed instruction to an
> undefined instruction) isn't usually done under stop_machine, so other
> CPUs could be executing the original instruction as it's being modified.
> 
> So, should we be making patch_text unconditionally use stop machine and
> remove all direct use of __patch_text? (E.g. by jump labels.)

You could take a look at what we do for arm64 (see aarch64_insn_hotpatch_safe)
for inspiration.

Will

      reply	other threads:[~2014-09-04 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-27 13:02 [PATCH v5 0/3] kprobes: arm: enable OPTPROBES for ARM 32 Wang Nan
2014-08-27 13:02 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ARM: probes: check stack operation when decoding Wang Nan
2014-08-28  9:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-28 10:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-08-28 10:24       ` Will Deacon
2014-08-29  8:47         ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-08-30  1:28           ` Wang Nan
2014-09-01 17:29             ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-08-27 13:02 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] kprobes: copy ainsn after alloc aggr kprobe Wang Nan
2014-08-28  9:39   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-08-28 11:07     ` Wang Nan
2014-08-27 13:02 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] kprobes: arm: enable OPTPROBES for ARM 32 Wang Nan
2014-08-28 10:20   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-09-02 13:49   ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-09-03 10:18     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-09-03 10:30       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-04 10:40         ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2014-09-04 10:52           ` Will Deacon [this message]

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