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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ursula Braun <braunu@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [bisected] e341694e3eb5 netlink_lookup() rcu conversion causes latencies
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 23:25:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141011222514.GA14186@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1413055964.9362.50.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On 10/11/14 at 12:32pm, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-10-11 at 10:36 +0200, Heiko Carstens wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > it just came to my attention that commit e341694e3eb5
> > "netlink: Convert netlink_lookup() to use RCU protected hash table"
> > causes network latencies for me on s390.
> > 
> > The testcase is quite simple and 100% reproducible on s390:
> > 
> > Simply login via ssh to a remote system which has the above mentioned
> > patch applied. Any action like pressing return now has significant
> > latencies. Or in other words, working via such a connection becomes
> > a pain ;)
> > 
> > I haven't debugged it, however I assume the problem is that a) the
> > commit introduces a synchronize_net() call und b) s390 kernels
> > usually get compiled with CONFIG_HZ_100 while most other architectures
> > use CONFIG_HZ_1000.
> > If I change the kernel config to CONFIG_HZ_1000 the problem goes away,
> > however I don't consider this a fix...
> > 
> > Another reason why this hasn't been observed on x86 may or may not be
> > that we haven't implemented CONFIG_HAVE_CONTEXT_TRACKING on s390 (yet).
> > But that's just guessing...
> 
> CC Paul and Sasha

I think the issue here is obvious and a fix is on the way to move
the insertion and removal to a worker to no longer require the
synchronize_rcu().

What bothers me is that the synchronize_rcu() should only occur
on expand/shrink and not for every table update. The default table
size is 64.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-11 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-11  8:36 [bisected] e341694e3eb5 netlink_lookup() rcu conversion causes latencies Heiko Carstens
2014-10-11 19:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2014-10-11 22:25   ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2014-10-11 23:08     ` David Miller
2014-10-20  8:21     ` Heiko Carstens
2014-10-20 19:53       ` [PATCH] netlink: Re-add locking to netlink_lookup() and seq walker Thomas Graf
2014-10-21  7:04         ` Heiko Carstens

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