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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: David Cohen <david.a.cohen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	myungjoo.ham@samsung.com, cw00.choi@samsung.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] extcon: otg_gpio: add driver for USB OTG port controlled by GPIO(s)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:17:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150218101706.GN1508@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150217193523.GA5113@psi-dev26.jf.intel.com>

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:35:23AM -0800, David Cohen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Adding Mika.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 01:25:00PM -0600, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:18:44AM -0800, David Cohen wrote:
> > > > > > > (3) Platform has 2 USB controllers connected to same port: one for
> > > > > > >     device and one for host role. D+/- are switched between phys
> > > > > > >     by GPIO.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > so you have discrete mux with a GPIO select signal, like below ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  .-------.----------------.  .--------.
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |      D+
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |<-------------.
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |              |
> > > > > >  |       |    USB Host    -->|    P   |              |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |    H   |              |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |    Y   |    D-        |
> > > > > >  |       '----------------'  |    0   |<--------.    |
> > > > > >  |                       |   |        |         |    |
> > > > > >  |                       |   '--------'      .--------.  D+
> > > > > >  |                       |                   |        |------>
> > > > > >  |       SOC        GPIO | ----------------->|        |
> > > > > >  |                       |                   |   MUX  |
> > > > > >  |                       |                   |        |------>
> > > > > >  |                       |   .--------.      '--------'  D-
> > > > > >  |       .----------------.  |        |   D-  |      |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |    P   |<------'      |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |    H   |              |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |    Y   |              |
> > > > > >  |       |   USB Device   -->|    1   |              |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |      D+      |
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |<-------------'
> > > > > >  |       |                |  |        |
> > > > > >  '-------'----------------'  '--------'
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nice ASCII pic :)
> > > > 
> > > > asciio ftw \o/
> > > > 
> > > > > Yes, that's the case.
> > > > 
> > > > alright
> > > > 
> > > > > > I have been on and off about writing a pinctrl-gpio.c driver which would
> > > > > > allow us to hide this detail from users. It shouldn't really matter
> > > > > > which modes are available behind the mux, but we should be able to tell
> > > > > > the mux to go into mode 0 or mode 1 by toggling its select signal. And
> > > > > > it shouldn't really matter that we have a GPIO pin. The problem is: I
> > > > > > don't really know if pinctrl would be able to handle discrete muxes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Adding Linus W to ask. Linus, what do you think ? Should we have a
> > > > > > pinctrl-gpio.c for such cases ? In TI we too have quite a few boards
> > > > > > which different modes hidden behind discrete muxes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > An input from Linus would fine in this case.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As per initial version, this driver has the duty to control whether
> > > > > > > USB-Host cable is plugged in or not:
> > > > > > >  - If yes, OTG port is configured for host role
> > > > > > >  - If no, by standard, the OTG port is configured for device role
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > correct, this default-B is mandated by OTG spec anyway.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: David Cohen <david.a.cohen@linux.intel.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Some Intel Bay Trail boards have an unusual way to handle the USB OTG port:
> > > > > > >  - The USB ID pin is connected directly to GPIO on SoC
> > > > > > >  - When in host role, VBUS is provided by enabling a GPIO
> > > > > > >  - Device and host roles are supported by 2 independent controllers with D+/-
> > > > > > >    pins from port switched between different phys according a GPIO level.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The ACPI table describes this USB port as a (virtual) device with all the
> > > > > > > necessary GPIOs. This driver implements support to this virtual device as an
> > > > > > > extcon class driver. All drivers that depend on the USB OTG port state (USB phy,
> > > > > > > PMIC, charge detection) will listen to extcon events.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Right I think you're almost there, but I still think that this needs to
> > > > > > be a bit broken down. First, we need some generic DRD library under
> > > > > > drivers/usb/common, and that should be the one listening to extcon cable
> > > > > > events. But your extcon driver should be doing only that: checking which
> > > > > > cable was attached, it shouldn't be doing the switch by itself. That
> > > > > > should be part of the DRD library.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That DRD library would also be the one enabling the (optional) VBUS
> > > > > > regulator.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > George Cherian tried to implement a generic DRD library but I think
> > > > > > there are still too many changes happening on usbcore and udc-core. Most
> > > > > > of the pieces are already there (usb_del_hcd() and usb_del_gadget_udc()
> > > > > > know how to properly unload an hcd/udc), but there are details missing,
> > > > > > no doubt.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If we can find a way to broadcast (probably not the best term, but
> > > > > > whatever) a "Hey ID pin was just grounded" message, we can get things
> > > > > > working.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That message, btw, shouldn't really depend on extcon-gpio alone because
> > > > > > other platforms might use non-gpio methods to verify ID pin level. In
> > > > > > any case, we need to have generic ID_PIN_LOW and ID_PIN_HIGH messages
> > > > > > that a generic DRD library can listen to and load/unload the correct
> > > > > > drivers by means of usb_{add,del}_{hcd,gadget_udc}().
> > > > > 
> > > > > IMHO extcon is the correct way to broadcast it, as long as we define a
> > > > > standard for the cable names. E.g. DRD library could listen to
> > > > > "USB-HOST" cable state. Then it doesn't matter how ID pin is grounded,
> > > > > it just matters that whoever is controlling it broadcast via this cable.
> > > > 
> > > > right, the likelyhood that someone would not use a GPIO is also quite
> > > > minimal and for such cases, the controller would likely switch roles
> > > > automatically (like with MUSB).
> > > > 
> > > > > > With that in mind, I think you can use extcon-gpio.c for your purposes
> > > > > > if the other pieces can be fullfilled by regulator and pinctrl.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In my case we have all gpios listed in a single ACPI device. In order to
> > > > > be backwards compatible with products already on market, we'd need
> > > > > something like a single mfd to register platform devices for this
> > > > > smaller pieces (extcon gpio, possible pintrl gpio, maybe vbus as regulator??).
> > > > 
> > > > correct.
> > > 
> > > Getting back to this case :)
> > > Guess I need to get back my words.
> > > 
> > > extcon-gpio.c cannot work out-of-the-box with my case. There is no clean
> > > way to get the GPIO given to this device via ACPI and refer it to another
> > > device (i.e. extcon-gpio).
> > 
> > add what's missing ?
> > 
> > > Here's my scenario:
> > > This platform has only one ACPI device representing the USB port with 3
> > > gpios controlling it. As GPIO consumer, there is no clean interface
> > > where I could get a GPIO descriptor via ACPI without requesting it.
> > > After request it, I cannot give it to extcon-gpio.c. Same would happen
> > > for a possible pinctrl gpio and regulator controller by gpio.
> > > 
> > > So my choices:
> > > 1) request GPIO locally, give it to other drivers and somehow inform
> > > them they should not request, but just to handle it (ugly)
> > > 
> > > 2) implement a way to pass this GPIO resource to another device without
> > > requesting locally
> > > 
> > > 3) stick with this driver fully handling the GPIOs which control this
> > > virtual "USB OTG port" device
> > 
> > 4) grab gpio via ACPI, gpio_free() it, pass to this driver. Would that
> > work ?
> 
> That works. But I feel it'd be same as 2. In case we don't want to
> implement 2, the same reasons would apply to not implement 4.
> 
> Linus, Mika, would you have any thoughts about case 4?

Isn't this exactly what Heikki suggested in his GPIO forwarding series
here:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/18/82

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-18 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-22 22:43 [RFC/PATCH] extcon: otg_gpio: add driver for USB OTG port controlled by GPIO(s) David Cohen
2014-12-23  1:25 ` Peter Chen
2014-12-23 19:40   ` David Cohen
2014-12-24  3:08     ` Peter Chen
2014-12-24 22:46       ` David Cohen
2014-12-23 13:10 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2014-12-23 19:57   ` David Cohen
2014-12-23 20:09     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2014-12-23 20:43       ` David Cohen
2014-12-24  0:29 ` Felipe Balbi
2014-12-24 22:43   ` David Cohen
2014-12-26  4:49     ` Felipe Balbi
2015-02-17 19:18       ` David Cohen
2015-02-17 19:25         ` Felipe Balbi
2015-02-17 19:35           ` David Cohen
2015-02-18 10:17             ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2015-02-18 17:53               ` David Cohen
2015-01-08 19:23 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-17 19:20   ` David Cohen
2015-02-19 19:59 ` [PATCH v2] " David Cohen
2015-02-19 22:39   ` Paul Bolle
2015-02-20 19:02     ` David Cohen
2015-02-20 19:09       ` Felipe Balbi
2015-02-20 19:18         ` David Cohen
2015-02-20 19:10       ` Paul Bolle
2015-02-20 19:18         ` David Cohen
2015-02-20  6:41   ` Robert Baldyga
2015-02-20  9:53     ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-20 19:17       ` David Cohen
2015-02-20 19:36         ` Felipe Balbi
2015-02-20 19:59           ` David Cohen
2015-02-20 20:00             ` Felipe Balbi
2015-02-20 20:40               ` David Cohen
2015-03-07 20:03                 ` Linus Walleij
2015-02-24 19:18         ` David Cohen
2015-03-07 20:06         ` Linus Walleij
2015-03-09 16:16           ` Felipe Balbi
2015-03-09 19:10             ` David Cohen
2015-03-16 16:46               ` David Cohen
2015-03-16 16:46                 ` David Cohen
2015-03-19  8:18               ` Linus Walleij

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