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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@codemonkey.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/12] time: Add warnings when overflows or underflows are observed
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 10:40:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150307094017.GG30888@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1425696603-16878-9-git-send-email-john.stultz@linaro.org>


* John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> wrote:

> It was suggested that the underflow/overflow protection
> should probably throw some sort of warning out, rather
> then just silently fixing the issue.

Typo.

> So this patch adds some warnings here. The flag variables
> used are not protected by locks, but since we can't print
> from the reading functions, just being able to say we
> saw an issue in the update interval is useful enough,
> and can be slightly racy without real consequnece.

Typo.

> The big complication is that we're only under a read
> seqlock, so the data could shift under us during
> our calcualtion to see if there was a problem. This

Typo.

> patch avoids this issue by nesting another seqlock
> which allows us to snapshot the just required values
> atomically. So we shouldn't see false positives.
> 
> I also added some basic ratelimiting here, since
> on one build machine w/ skewed TSCs it was fairly
> noisy at bootup.

> +#define WARNINGFREQ (HZ*300) /* 5 minute rate-limiting */

Nit: so in general wereallytrytokeepwordsapart, so I'd suggest a 
name of WARNING_FREQ or so?

>  	cycle_t max_cycles = tk->tkr.clock->max_cycles;
>  	const char *name = tk->tkr.clock->name;
> +	static long last_warning; /* we always hold write on timekeeper lock */

So I'm not sure I ever heard the phrase 'to hold write', this doesn't 
parse for me.

Also, static global variables should really, really not be immersed 
amongst on-stack variables, they are so easy to overlook. Just put 
them in front of the function.

>  
>  	if (offset > max_cycles)
>  		printk_deferred("ERROR: cycle offset (%lld) is larger then"
> @@ -133,28 +145,60 @@ static void timekeeping_check_update(struct timekeeper *tk, cycle_t offset)
>  		printk_deferred("WARNING: cycle offset (%lld) is past"
>  			" the %s 50%% safety margin (%lld)\n",
>  			offset, name, max_cycles>>1);
> +
> +	if (timekeeping_underflow_seen) {
> +		if (jiffies - last_warning > WARNINGFREQ) {
> +			printk_deferred("WARNING: Clocksource underflow observed\n");
> +			last_warning = jiffies;
> +		}
> +		timekeeping_underflow_seen = 0;
> +	}
> +	if (timekeeping_overflow_seen) {
> +		if (jiffies - last_warning > WARNINGFREQ) {
> +			printk_deferred("WARNING: Clocksource overflow observed\n");

I think the warning should be more informative. If a distro turns this 
on and a user sees this value, what will he think? Is the kernel still 
OK? What can he do about it?

> +			last_warning = jiffies;
> +		}
> +		timekeeping_overflow_seen = 0;
> +	}
> +
>  }
>  
>  static inline cycle_t timekeeping_get_delta(struct tk_read_base *tkr)
>  {
> -	cycle_t cycle_now, delta;
> +	cycle_t now, last, mask, max, delta;
> +	unsigned int seq;
>  
> -	/* read clocksource */
> -	cycle_now = tkr->read(tkr->clock);
> +	/*
> +	 * Since we're called holding a seqlock, the data may shift
> +	 * under us while we're doign the calculation. This can cause

Typo...

> +	 * false positives, since we'd note a problem but throw the
> +	 * results away. So nest  another seqlock here to atomically

Spurious space. I know they are cheap, but still.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-07  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-07  2:49 [PATCH 00/12] Increased clocksource validation and cleanups (v3) John Stultz
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 01/12] clocksource: Simplify clocks_calc_max_nsecs logic John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:20   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 02/12] clocksource: Simplify logic around clocksource wrapping saftey margins John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 03/12] clocksource: Remove clocksource_max_deferment() John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 04/12] clocksource: Add max_cycles to clocksource structure John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:54   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 05/12] time: Add debugging checks to warn if we see delays John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:22   ` Paul Bolle
2015-03-07  9:29   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 06/12] time: Add infrastructure to cap clocksource reads to the max_cycles value John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:32   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 07/12] time: Try to catch clocksource delta underflows John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:49 ` [PATCH 08/12] time: Add warnings when overflows or underflows are observed John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:40   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-03-09 16:50     ` John Stultz
2015-03-10  5:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:50 ` [PATCH 09/12] clocksource: Improve clocksource watchdog reporting John Stultz
2015-03-07  2:50 ` [PATCH 10/12] clocksource: Mostly kill clocksource_register() John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:45   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:50 ` [PATCH 11/12] sparc: Convert to using clocksource_register_hz() John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07  2:50 ` [PATCH 12/12] clocksource: Add some debug info about clocksources being registered John Stultz
2015-03-07  9:50   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-12  3:16     ` John Stultz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-01-23  0:09 [PATCH 00/12][RFC] Increased clocksource validation and cleanups (v2) John Stultz
2015-01-23  0:09 ` [PATCH 08/12] time: Add warnings when overflows or underflows are observed John Stultz
2015-01-23 14:30   ` Peter Zijlstra

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