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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aneesh Kumar <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: numa: Slow PTE scan rate if migration failures occur
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:01:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150323120131.GB4701@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx1pywykWa0ThcHgE7wzdVuyOBSx27iyx_FtZpYSJbKGQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:02:23AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> >
> > Testing now. It's a bit faster - three runs gave 7m35s, 7m20s and
> > 7m36s. IOWs's a bit better, but not significantly. page migrations
> > are pretty much unchanged, too:
> >
> >            558,632      migrate:mm_migrate_pages ( +-  6.38% )
> 
> Ok. That was kind of the expected thing.
> 
> I don't really know the NUMA fault rate limiting code, but one thing
> that strikes me is that if it tries to balance the NUMA faults against
> the *regular* faults, then maybe just the fact that we end up taking
> more COW faults after a NUMA fault then means that the NUMA rate
> limiting code now gets over-eager (because it sees all those extra
> non-numa faults).
> 
> Mel, does that sound at all possible? I really have never looked at
> the magic automatic rate handling..
> 

It should not be trying to balance against regular faults as it has no
information on it. The trapping of additional faults to mark the PTE
writable will alter timing so it indirectly affects how many migration
faults there but this is only a side-effect IMO.

There is more overhead now due to losing the writable information and
that should be reduced so I tried a few approaches.  Ultimately, the one
that performed the best and was easiest to understand simply preserved
the writable bit across the protection update and page fault. I'll post
it later when I stick a changelog on it.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-23 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-07 15:20 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Automatic NUMA balancing and PROT_NONE handling followup v2r8 Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 15:20 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: thp: Return the correct value for change_huge_pmd Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 20:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-07 20:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-07 20:56     ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 15:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: numa: Remove migrate_ratelimited Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 15:20 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: numa: Mark huge PTEs young when clearing NUMA hinting faults Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 18:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-07 18:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-07 15:20 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: numa: Slow PTE scan rate if migration failures occur Mel Gorman
2015-03-07 16:36   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07 17:37     ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-08  9:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-07 19:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-08 10:02       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-08 18:35         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-08 18:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-09 11:29           ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-09 16:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-09 19:19               ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-10 23:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-12 13:10                   ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-12 16:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-12 18:49                       ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-17  7:06                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-17 16:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-17 20:51                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-17 21:30                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-17 22:08                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-18 16:08                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-18 17:31                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-18 22:23                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-19 14:10                                       ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-19 18:09                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-19 21:41                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-19 22:41                                         ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-19 23:05                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-19 23:23                                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20  0:23                                             ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20  1:29                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-20  4:13                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-20 17:02                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-03-23 12:01                                                     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2015-03-20 10:12                                                 ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-20  9:56                                             ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-08 20:40         ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-09 21:02           ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-10 13:08             ` Mel Gorman
2015-03-08  9:41   ` Ingo Molnar

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