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From: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
To: "Li, ZhenHua" <zhen-hual@hp.com>
Cc: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, indou.takao@jp.fujitsu.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	vgoyal@redhat.com, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	ddutile@redhat.com, ishii.hironobu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	bhelgaas@google.com, doug.hatch@hp.com, jerry.hoemann@hp.com,
	tom.vaden@hp.com, li.zhang6@hp.com, lisa.mitchell@hp.com,
	billsumnerlinux@gmail.com, rwright@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults in kdump kernel
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:33:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150408033351.GI7213@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5523A977.1030707@hp.com>

On 04/07/15 at 05:55pm, Li, ZhenHua wrote:
> On 04/07/2015 05:08 PM, Dave Young wrote:
> >On 04/07/15 at 11:46am, Dave Young wrote:
> >>On 04/05/15 at 09:54am, Baoquan He wrote:
> >>>On 04/03/15 at 05:21pm, Dave Young wrote:
> >>>>On 04/03/15 at 05:01pm, Li, ZhenHua wrote:
> >>>>>Hi Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There may be some possibilities that the old iommu data is corrupted by
> >>>>>some other modules. Currently we do not have a better solution for the
> >>>>>dmar faults.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>But I think when this happens, we need to fix the module that corrupted
> >>>>>the old iommu data. I once met a similar problem in normal kernel, the
> >>>>>queue used by the qi_* functions was written again by another module.
> >>>>>The fix was in that module, not in iommu module.
> >>>>
> >>>>It is too late, there will be no chance to save vmcore then.
> >>>>
> >>>>Also if it is possible to continue corrupt other area of oldmem because
> >>>>of using old iommu tables then it will cause more problems.
> >>>>
> >>>>So I think the tables at least need some verifycation before being used.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>Yes, it's a good thinking anout this and verification is also an
> >>>interesting idea. kexec/kdump do a sha256 calculation on loaded kernel
> >>>and then verify this again when panic happens in purgatory. This checks
> >>>whether any code stomps into region reserved for kexec/kernel and corrupt
> >>>the loaded kernel.
> >>>
> >>>If this is decided to do it should be an enhancement to current
> >>>patchset but not a approach change. Since this patchset is going very
> >>>close to point as maintainers expected maybe this can be merged firstly,
> >>>then think about enhancement. After all without this patchset vt-d often
> >>>raised error message, hung.
> >>
> >>It does not convince me, we should do it right at the beginning instead of
> >>introduce something wrong.
> >>
> >>I wonder why the old dma can not be remap to a specific page in kdump kernel
> >>so that it will not corrupt more memory. But I may missed something, I will
> >>looking for old threads and catch up.
> >
> >I have read the old discussion, above way was dropped because it could corrupt
> >filesystem. Apologize about late commenting.
> >
> >But current solution sounds bad to me because of using old memory which is not
> >reliable.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Dave
> >
> Seems we do not have a better solution for the dmar faults.  But I believe
> we can find out how to verify the iommu data which is located in old memory.

That will be great, thanks.

So there's two things:
1) make sure old pg tables are right, this is what we were talking about.
2) avoid writing old memory, I suppose only dma read could corrupt filesystem,
right? So how about for any dma writes just create a scratch page in 2nd kernel
memory. Only using old page table for dma read.

Thanks
Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-08  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-19  5:36 [PATCH v9 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults in kdump kernel Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 01/10] iommu/vt-d: New function to attach domain with id Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 02/10] iommu/vt-d: Items required for kdump Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 03/10] iommu/vt-d: Function to get old context entry Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 04/10] iommu/vt-d: functions to copy data from old mem Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 05/10] iommu/vt-d: Add functions to load and save old re Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 06/10] iommu/vt-d: datatypes and functions used for kdump Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 07/10] iommu/vt-d: enable kdump support in iommu module Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-02 11:06   ` Joerg Roedel
2015-04-03  7:45     ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 08/10] iommu/vt-d: assign new page table for dma_map Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 09/10] iommu/vt-d: Copy functions for irte Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-03-19  5:36 ` [PATCH v9 10/10] iommu/vt-d: Use old irte in kdump kernel Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-02 11:11 ` [PATCH v9 0/10] iommu/vt-d: Fix intel vt-d faults " Joerg Roedel
2015-04-03  7:54   ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-03  8:28 ` Dave Young
2015-04-03  8:31   ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-03  8:40 ` Dave Young
2015-04-03  9:01   ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-03  9:21     ` Dave Young
2015-04-03 14:05       ` Li, Zhen-Hua
2015-04-07  3:49         ` Dave Young
2015-04-05  1:54       ` Baoquan He
2015-04-07  3:46         ` Dave Young
2015-04-07  9:08           ` Dave Young
2015-04-07  9:55             ` Li, ZhenHua
2015-04-08  3:33               ` Dave Young [this message]
2015-04-07 14:12           ` Don Dutile
2015-05-07 14:00             ` Dave Young
2015-05-07 14:25               ` Don Dutile
2015-05-08  1:21                 ` Dave Young
2015-05-10 21:37                   ` Don Dutile
2015-05-10 21:31               ` Don Dutile
2015-05-04 11:05   ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-04 15:21     ` Don Dutile
2015-05-05  6:09     ` Dave Young
2015-05-05 15:23       ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-06  1:46         ` Dave Young
2015-05-06  8:16           ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-07 13:25             ` Dave Young
2015-05-07 13:56     ` Dave Young
2015-05-11 10:11       ` Joerg Roedel
2015-05-12  5:57         ` Dave Young
2015-05-12  6:41           ` Dave Young

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