From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754319AbbEKOr1 (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2015 10:47:27 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:56939 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751292AbbEKOrX (ORCPT ); Mon, 11 May 2015 10:47:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:47:19 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Trond Myklebust Cc: Sage Weil , Dave Chinner , Zach Brown , Alexander Viro , Linux FS-devel Mailing List , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux API Mailing List Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] vfs: add a O_NOMTIME flag Message-ID: <20150511144719.GA14088@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Trond Myklebust , Sage Weil , Dave Chinner , Zach Brown , Alexander Viro , Linux FS-devel Mailing List , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux API Mailing List References: <1430949612-21356-1-git-send-email-zab@redhat.com> <20150507002617.GJ4327@dastard> <20150507172053.GA659@lenny.home.zabbo.net> <20150508221325.GM4327@dastard> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 07:13:24PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote: > That makes it completely non-generic though. By putting this in the > VFS, you are giving applications a loaded gun that is pointed straight > at the application user's head. Let me re-ask the question that I asked last week (and was apparently ignored). Why not trying to use the lazytime feature instead of pointing a head straight at the application's --- and system administrators' --- heads? - Ted