From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@ezchip.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_ISOLATION=y (was: [PATCH 0/6] support "dataplane" mode for nohz_full)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 14:34:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150512123440.GA16959@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150512114809.GL21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:10:32AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > So I'd vote for Frederic's CONFIG_ISOLATION=y, mostly because this
> > is a high level kernel feature, so it won't conflict with
> > isolation concepts in lower level subsystems such as IOMMU
> > isolation - and other higher level features like scheduler
> > isolation are basically another partial implementation we want to
> > merge with all this...
>
> But why do we need a CONFIG flag for something that has no content?
>
> That is, I do not see anything much; except the 'I want to stay in
> userspace and kill me otherwise' flag, and I'm not sure that
> warrants a CONFIG flag like this.
>
> Other than that, its all a combination of NOHZ_FULL and
> cpusets/isolcpus and whatnot.
Yes, that's what I meant: CONFIG_ISOLATION would trigger what is
NO_HZ_FULL today - we could possibly even remove CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL as
an individual Kconfig option?
CONFIG_ISOLATION=y would express the guarantee from the kernel that
it's possible for user-space to configure itself to run undisturbed -
instead of the current inconsistent set of options and facilities.
A bit like CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is more than just preemptable spinlocks,
it also tries to offer various facilities and tune the defaults to
turn the kernel hard-rt.
Does that make sense to you?
Thanks,
Ingo
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2015-05-08 17:58 [PATCH 0/6] support "dataplane" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 1/6] nohz_full: add support for "dataplane" mode Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 2/6] nohz: dataplane: allow tick to be fully disabled for dataplane Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 13:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-14 20:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 3/6] dataplane nohz: run softirqs synchronously on user entry Chris Metcalf
2015-05-09 7:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-11 20:13 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 2:21 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-12 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 13:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 4/6] nohz: support PR_DATAPLANE_QUIESCE Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 9:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 10:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 12:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 4:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-13 17:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-14 20:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-14 20:54 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 5/6] nohz: support PR_DATAPLANE_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-05-09 7:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-09 10:37 ` Gilad Ben Yossef
2015-05-11 19:13 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-11 22:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-12 21:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 22:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-15 21:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 13:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-08 17:58 ` [PATCH 6/6] nohz: add dataplane_debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 21:18 ` [PATCH 0/6] support "dataplane" mode for nohz_full Andrew Morton
2015-05-08 21:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-05-08 23:11 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-08 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-09 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-09 7:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-11 19:54 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-11 22:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <55510885.9070101@ezchip.com>
2015-05-12 13:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-09 7:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-09 10:18 ` Gilad Ben Yossef
2015-05-11 12:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-05-11 15:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-11 19:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-11 19:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 1:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-12 4:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-15 15:05 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 18:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-26 19:51 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-27 3:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-05-11 17:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-11 17:27 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-11 17:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-11 18:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-05-11 18:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-11 18:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-05-12 9:10 ` CONFIG_ISOLATION=y (was: [PATCH 0/6] support "dataplane" mode for nohz_full) Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 11:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 12:34 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-12 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 15:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-05-12 21:05 ` CONFIG_ISOLATION=y Chris Metcalf
2015-05-12 10:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] support "dataplane" mode for nohz_full Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-15 15:10 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:26 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] support "cpu_isolated" " Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] nohz_full: add support for "cpu_isolated" mode Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] nohz: support PR_CPU_ISOLATED_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] nohz: cpu_isolated strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] nohz: add cpu_isolated_debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 21:27 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] nohz: cpu_isolated: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-05-15 22:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] nohz_full: add support for "cpu_isolated" mode Thomas Gleixner
2015-05-28 20:38 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] support "cpu_isolated" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] nohz_full: add support for "cpu_isolated" mode Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] nohz: support PR_CPU_ISOLATED_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] nohz: cpu_isolated strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] nohz: add cpu_isolated_debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] nohz: cpu_isolated: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:57 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] support "cpu_isolated" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:57 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] nohz_full: add support for "cpu_isolated" mode Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 20:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 21:01 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 21:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:10 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-21 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-22 13:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-22 19:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-22 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-07-24 20:21 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-24 20:22 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-24 14:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 20:19 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-24 13:27 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-24 20:21 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:57 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] nohz: support PR_CPU_ISOLATED_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 21:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:34 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-21 19:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-24 20:29 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:57 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] nohz: cpu_isolated strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:58 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] nohz: add cpu_isolated_debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-07-13 19:58 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] nohz: cpu_isolated: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 0/6] support "cpu_isolated" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] vmstat: provide a function to quiet down the diff processing Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] cpu_isolated: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2015-08-12 16:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-12 18:22 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-08-26 15:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-26 15:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] cpu_isolated: support PR_CPU_ISOLATED_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] cpu_isolated: provide strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] cpu_isolated: add debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-07-28 19:49 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] nohz: cpu_isolated: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] support "task_isolated" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] vmstat: provide a function to quiet down the diff processing Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] task_isolation: support PR_TASK_ISOLATION_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-08-26 10:36 ` Will Deacon
2015-08-26 15:10 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-02 10:13 ` Will Deacon
2015-08-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v6.1 " Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] task_isolation: provide strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-08-28 19:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-02 18:38 ` [PATCH v6.2 3/6] task_isolation: support PR_TASK_ISOLATION_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] task_isolation: add debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-08-25 19:55 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] nohz: task_isolation: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 00/11] support "task_isolated" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 01/11] vmstat: provide a function to quiet down the diff processing Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 02/11] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2015-10-01 12:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-01 12:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 12:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-01 12:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 17:02 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-01 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-02 17:15 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-02 19:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 19:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 03/11] task_isolation: support PR_TASK_ISOLATION_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 20:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-28 21:54 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 22:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-29 17:35 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-29 17:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-29 17:57 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-29 18:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 19:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 04/11] task_isolation: provide strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 20:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-28 21:54 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 05/11] task_isolation: add debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 20:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-28 21:55 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-29 17:35 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-05 17:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2015-10-08 0:33 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-08 20:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 06/11] nohz: task_isolation: allow tick to be fully disabled Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 20:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 13:07 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-01 14:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 07/11] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 20:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-28 21:57 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 22:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-29 17:42 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-29 17:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-30 20:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-30 20:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-30 22:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-30 22:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-01 8:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 9:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-01 10:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-10-01 19:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 08/11] arch/arm64: adopt prepare_exit_to_usermode() model from x86 Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 09/11] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 10/11] arch/tile: adopt prepare_exit_to_usermode() model from x86 Chris Metcalf
2015-09-28 15:17 ` [PATCH v7 11/11] arch/tile: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:35 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] support "task_isolation" mode for nohz_full Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:35 ` [PATCH v8 01/14] vmstat: provide a function to quiet down the diff processing Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 02/14] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 03/14] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 04/14] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-20 21:20 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 21:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 0:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-10-26 20:19 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-26 21:13 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-26 20:32 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-21 16:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-27 16:40 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-01-28 16:38 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-02-11 19:58 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 05/14] task_isolation: support PR_TASK_ISOLATION_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 06/14] task_isolation: provide strict mode configurable signal Chris Metcalf
2015-10-21 0:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-10-21 1:30 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-21 1:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-10-21 1:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 6:41 ` Gilad Ben Yossef
2015-10-21 18:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-22 20:44 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-22 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-27 19:37 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-24 9:16 ` Gilad Ben Yossef
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 07/14] task_isolation: add debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 08/14] nohz_full: allow disabling the 1Hz minimum tick at boot Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 21:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-20 21:18 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-21 0:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-10-21 6:56 ` Gilad Ben Yossef
2015-10-21 14:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-10-21 15:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 09/14] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 10/14] arch/arm64: adopt prepare_exit_to_usermode() model from x86 Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 11/14] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 12/14] arch/tile: adopt prepare_exit_to_usermode() model from x86 Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 13/14] arch/tile: turn off timer tick for oneshot_stopped state Chris Metcalf
2015-10-20 20:36 ` [PATCH v8 14/14] arch/tile: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2015-10-21 12:39 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] support "task_isolation" mode for nohz_full Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-22 20:31 ` Chris Metcalf
2015-10-23 2:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-23 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-23 13:29 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-10-23 9:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-23 11:52 ` Theodore Ts'o
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