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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/64: Migrate error and IRQ exit work to C and remove old assembly code
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:18:12 +0200
Message-ID: <20150819171811.GB21717@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVD1EyH075Lwja4rCLg9OXSB7ZgQtP_5ZwFypf3b9q9sQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 03:40:20PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If we switched back to exception_enter, we'd have to remember the
> >> previous state, and, with a single exception right now, I think that's
> >> unnecessary.
> >>
> >> I think there are only three states we can be in at exception entry:
> >> user (and user_mode(regs)), kernel (and kernel_mode(regs)), or
> >> NMI-like.
> >
> > But we can have user && (!user_mode(regs)) if exception happens on exception
> > entry code.
> 
> I sure hope not, unless it nests inside an NMI-like thing.  It's
> conceivable that this might happen due to perf NMIs causing a failed
> MSR read or similar.  We might need to relax the assertions to check
> that we're either in kernel or NMI context.  If so, that's
> straightforward.  Meanwhile no one has reported this happening.

But we can still have #DB on entry code right? We blocked breakpoints on entry
code (I still don't get why and it looks to me like an overkill) but we still
have watchpoints.

> 
> >
> >> In the user case, the new code is correct.  In the kernel
> >> case, the new code is also correct.  In the NMI case (if we're nested
> >> in an NMI or similar entry)) then it is and was the responsibility of
> >> the NMI-like entry to call rcu_nmi_enter(), and things that nest
> >> inside that shouldn't touch context tracking (with the possible
> >> exception of calling rcu_nmi_enter() again).
> >>
> >> In current -tip, there's a slight hole in this due to syscalls, and I'll fix it.
> >
> > There must be a check for context tracking enabled anyway. So why can't
> > we just just do in exception entry code:
> >
> >        if (exception_slow_path()) {
> >            exception_enter()
> >            exception_handler()
> >            exception_exit()
> >        } else {
> >            normal stuff
> >        }
> >
> > Especially if we can manage to implement static keys in ASM, this will sum up to
> > a single one.
> 
> There isn't really an exception slow path.  There's already a branch
> for user vs kernel (in the CPL sense), and with my patches, there's no
> additional branch for previous context tracking state.

But an exception slow path based on static key would the most lightweight
thing for context tracking off-case (which is 99.9999% of usecases) and we
would keep it robust (ie: no need to enumerate all the fragile non-possibility
for an exception in entry code to get it safe).

> > So now we can't set a breakpoint on syscall entry anymore?
> >
> > I'm still nervous with all that.
> 
> We haven't done anything that would make breakpoints on syscall entry
> less safe than they were, but we now disallow the breakpoints.  In the
> future, we might take advantage of that change.

I still don't get the reason of that.

  reply index

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-03 19:44 [PATCH v5 00/17] x86: Rewrite exit-to-userspace code Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] selftests/x86: Add a test for 32-bit fast syscall arg faults Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:49   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry, " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] x86/entry/64/compat: Fix bad fast syscall arg failure path Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:49   ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] uml: Fix do_signal() prototype Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:49   ` [tip:x86/asm] um: " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] context_tracking: Add ct_state and CT_WARN_ON Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:50   ` [tip:x86/asm] context_tracking: Add ct_state() and CT_WARN_ON() tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] notifiers: Assert that RCU is watching in notify_die Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:50   ` [tip:x86/asm] notifiers, RCU: Assert that RCU is watching in notify_die() tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] x86: Move C entry and exit code to arch/x86/entry/common.c Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:50   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Move C entry and exit code to arch/x86/ entry/common.c tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] x86/traps: Assert that we're in CONTEXT_KERNEL in exception entries Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:51   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/traps, context_tracking: Assert that we' re " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] x86/entry: Add enter_from_user_mode and use it in syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:51   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Add enter_from_user_mode() " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-14 23:00     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-14 23:04       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-14 23:28         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-12-21 20:50   ` [PATCH v5 08/17] x86/entry: Add enter_from_user_mode " Sasha Levin
2015-12-21 22:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] x86/entry: Add new, comprehensible entry and exit hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:51   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Add new, comprehensible entry and exit handlers written in C tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-14 23:07     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-15 19:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-15 20:46         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-15 21:25           ` [PATCH] x86/entry: Fix _TIF_USER_RETURN_NOTIFY check in prepare_exit_to_usermode Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18  3:25             ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] x86/entry/64: Really create an error-entry-from-usermode code path Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:52   ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] x86/entry/64: Migrate 64-bit and compat syscalls to new exit hooks Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:52   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry/64: Migrate 64-bit and compat syscalls to the new exit handlers and remove old assembly code tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] x86/asm/entry/64: Save all regs on interrupt entry Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:52   ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] x86/asm/entry/64: Simplify irq stack pt_regs handling Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:53   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/64: Simplify IRQ " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] x86/asm/entry/64: Migrate error and interrupt exit work to C Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:53   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm/entry/64: Migrate error and IRQ exit work to C and remove old assembly code tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-11 22:18     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-11 22:25       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-11 22:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-11 22:59           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12  1:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-12 13:13             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-11 22:38     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-11 22:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-11 23:22         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-11 23:33           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-12 13:32             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-12 14:59               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-18 22:34                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-18 22:40                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-19 17:18                     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-08-19 18:02                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] x86/entry: Remove exception_enter from most trap handlers Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:53   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Remove exception_enter() " tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] x86/entry: Remove SCHEDULE_USER and asm/context-tracking.h Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:54   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry: Remove SCHEDULE_USER and asm/ context-tracking.h tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 19:44 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] x86/irq: Document how IRQ context tracking works and add an assertion Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 10:54   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/irq, context_tracking: Document how IRQ context tracking works and add an RCU assertion tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-14 23:26     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-14 23:33       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18 13:23         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-07-18 14:10           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-07 11:12 ` [PATCH v5 00/17] x86: Rewrite exit-to-userspace code Ingo Molnar
2015-07-07 16:03   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-07 17:55     ` [PATCH] x86/entry/64: Fix warning on compat syscalls with CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=n Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-08  9:57       ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/entry/64: Fix IRQ state confusion and related warning on compat syscalls with CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL =n tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-08 19:12       ` tip-bot for Andy Lutomirski

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