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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:06:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150828160637.GA4393@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150828145121.GG5301@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 08/28, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> On Thu 27-08-15 20:26:54, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 08/27, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > >
> > > --- a/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > > +++ b/Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> > > @@ -2031,6 +2031,9 @@ something up.  The barrier occurs before the task state is cleared, and so sits
> > >  	    <general barrier>		  STORE current->state
> > >  	LOAD event_indicated
> > >
> > > +Please note that wake_up_process is an exception here because it implies
> > > +the write memory barrier unconditionally.
> > > +
> >
> > I simply can't understand (can't even parse) this part of memory-barriers.txt.
>
> Do you mean the added text or the example above it?

Both ;)

but note that "load from X might see 0" is true of course, and in this
sense wake_up_process() is not exception:

	X = 1;
	wmb();	// unless I am totally confused this just adds more confusion
	Y = 1;
	wake_up_process(TASK);

vs TASK doing

	for (;;) {
		set_current_state(...);
		if (Y)
			break;
		schedule();
	}

	BUG_ON(X == 0)

is not correct, it can actually can hit the BUG_ON() above. However, if
wake_up_process() actually wakes a sleeping TASK up, then it should also
see X = 1. Even without wmb(), even if we do

	Y = 1;
	X = 1;
	wake_up_process(TASK);

> > > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > > @@ -1967,8 +1967,7 @@ static void try_to_wake_up_local(struct task_struct *p)
> > >   *
> > >   * Return: 1 if the process was woken up, 0 if it was already running.
> > >   *
> > > - * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier before
> > > - * changing the task state if and only if any tasks are woken up.
> > > + * It may be assumed that this function implies a write memory barrier.
> > >   */
> >
> > I won't argue, technically this is correct of course. And I agree that
> > the old comment is misleading.
>
> Well the reason I've noticed is the following race in the scsi code
>     CPU0                                        CPU1
> scsi_error_handler                      scsi_host_dev_release
>                                           kthread_stop()
>   while (!kthread_should_stop()) {
>                                             set_bit(KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP)
>                                             wake_up_process()
>                                             wait_for_completion()
>
>     set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE)
>     schedule()

Heh. This looks like a common mistake. See fecdf8be2d91e04b0a9a4f79ff06499 ;)

But I believe this is another thing.

> I have read the comment for wake_up_process and was wondering that
> moving set_current_state before kthread_should_stop wouldn't be enough
> because the the task at CPU0 might be TASK_RUNNIG and so wake_up_process
> wouldn't wake up it and the missing write barrier could lead to a missed
> KTHREAD_SHOULD_STOP.

And that is why try_to_wake_up()->smp_mb__before_spinlock() needs to
serialize STORE(CONDITION) and the subsequent LOAD(p->state). The fact
that it actually does wmb() is just implementation detail, that is what
I tried to say.

> > To me, this comment should just explain that this function implies a barrier
> > but only in a sense that you do not need another one after CONDITION = T and
> > before wake_up_process().
>
> I have no objection against more precise wording here but what we have is just
> misleading.

Yes, yes, I agree. Just I do not know what exactly it should document.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-27 12:27 wake_up_process implied memory barrier clarification Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-27 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 18:26     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-28 14:51       ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-28 16:06         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-08-29  9:25           ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-29 14:27             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31  0:37               ` Boqun Feng
2015-08-31 18:33                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-31 20:37                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  3:40                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  4:03                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-01  9:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-01 14:50                         ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01 16:39                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-02  1:10                             ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-07 17:06                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-08  0:22                                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-01  9:41                     ` Oleg Nesterov

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