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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
	Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"mturquette@baylibre.com" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:15:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150909201519.GB21833@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55EED99E.2040100@arm.com>

On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 01:50:38PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> > It's both a unit and a SCALE/SHIFT problem, SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT and
> > SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT are defined separately so we must be sure to
> > scale the value in the right range. In the case of cpu_usage which
> > returns sa->util_avg , it's the capacity range not the load range.
> 
> Still don't understand why it's a unit problem. IMHO LOAD/UTIL and
> CAPACITY have no unit.

To be more accurate, probably, LOAD can be thought of as having unit,
but UTIL has no unit.
 
Anyway, those are my definitions:

1) unit, only for LOAD, and SCHED_LOAD_X is the unit (but
   SCHED_LOAD_RESOLUTION make it also some 2, see below)
2) range, aka, resolution or fix-point percentage (as Ben said)
3) timing ratio, LOAD_AVG_MAX etc, unralated with SCHED_LOAD_X

> >> I always thought that scale_load_down() takes care of that.
> > 
> > AFAIU, scale_load_down is a way to increase the resolution  of the
> > load not to move from load to capacity
> 
> I tried to figure out why we have this issue when comparing UTIL w/
> CAPACITY and not LOAD w/ CAPACITY:
> 
> Both are initialized like that:
> 
>  sa->load_avg = scale_load_down(se->load.weight);
>  sa->load_sum = sa->load_avg * LOAD_AVG_MAX;
>  sa->util_avg = scale_load_down(SCHED_LOAD_SCALE);
>  sa->util_sum = LOAD_AVG_MAX;
> 
> and we use 'se->on_rq * scale_load_down(se->load.weight)' as 'unsigned
> long weight' argument to call __update_load_avg() making sure the
> scaling differences between LOAD and CAPACITY are respected while
> updating sa->load_sum (and sa->load_avg).

Yes, because we used SCHED_LOAD_X as both unit and range for LOAD.
 
> OTAH, we don't apply a scale_load_down for sa->util_[sum/avg] only a '<<
> SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT) / LOAD_AVG_MAX' on sa->util_avg.
> So changing '<< SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT' to '*
> scale_load_down(SCHED_LOAD_SCALE)' would be the logical thing to do.

Actually, for UTIL, we only need range, so don't conflate with LOAD,
what about we get all these clarified by redefining SCHED_LOAD_RESOLUTION
as the resolution/range generic macro for LOAD, UTIL, and CAPACITY:

#define SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT  10
#define SCHED_RESOLUTION_SCALE  (1L << SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT)

#if 0 /* BITS_PER_LONG > 32 -- currently broken: it increases power usage under light load  */
# define scale_load(w)          ((w) << SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT)
# define scale_load_down(w)     ((w) >> SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT)
# define SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT       (10 + SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT)
#else
# define scale_load(w)          (w)
# define scale_load_down(w)     (w)
# define SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT       (10)
#endif

#define SCHED_LOAD_SCALE        (1L << SCHED_LOAD_SHIFT)

For UTIL, e.g., it will be initiated as:
sa->util_avg = SCHED_RESOLUTION_SCALE;

And for capacity, we just use SCHED_RESOLUTION_SHIFT
(so SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT is not needed).

Thanks,
Yuyang

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10  4:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-14 16:23 [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched/fair: Make load tracking frequency scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched/fair: Convert arch_scale_cpu_capacity() from weak function to #define Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-02  9:31   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-02 12:41     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-03 19:58     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:26       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 13:25         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 13:21         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-11 14:45           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:03   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking cpu scale-invariant Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-14 23:04   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-04  7:52     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-13 11:04     ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Make utilization tracking CPU scale-invariant tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched/fair: Name utilization related data and functions consistently Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-04  9:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-11 16:35     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:04   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] sched/fair: Get rid of scaling utilization by capacity_orig Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-03 23:51   ` Steve Muckle
2015-09-07 15:37     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 16:21       ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-07 18:54         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 19:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:47             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08  7:22           ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:26             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 12:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 14:06                 ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:35                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 14:40                     ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:31                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-08 15:33                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 22:23                     ` bsegall
2015-09-10 11:06                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-10 11:11                         ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-10 12:10                           ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11  0:50                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 17:23                         ` bsegall
2015-09-08 16:53                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-09  9:43                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09  9:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-09 11:13                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:22                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-17  9:51                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-17 10:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-21  1:16                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-21 17:30                               ` bsegall
2015-09-21 23:39                                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-22 17:18                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-22 23:22                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-23 16:54                                       ` bsegall
2015-09-24  0:22                                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-30 12:52                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  7:46                     ` Leo Yan
2015-09-11 10:02                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 14:11                         ` Leo Yan
2015-09-09 19:07                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-10 10:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 13:39               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:10                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 15:17                   ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 12:50             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-08 14:01               ` Vincent Guittot
2015-09-08 14:27                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-09 20:15               ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2015-09-10 10:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-11  0:28                   ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-11 10:31                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-11 17:05                       ` bsegall
2015-09-11 18:24                         ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-14 17:36                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 12:56                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-14 17:34                           ` bsegall
2015-09-14 22:56                             ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15 17:11                               ` bsegall
2015-09-15 18:39                                 ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-16 17:06                                   ` bsegall
2015-09-17  2:31                                     ` Yuyang Du
2015-09-15  8:43                             ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-16 15:36                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 11:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-13 11:04       ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2015-08-14 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched/fair: Initialize task load and utilization before placing task on rq Morten Rasmussen
2015-09-13 11:05   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-16 20:46 ` [PATCH 0/6] sched/fair: Compute capacity invariant load/utilization tracking Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-17 11:29   ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-08-17 11:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-08-31  9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-02  9:51   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-07 12:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 13:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 14:44     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2015-09-13 11:06       ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Defer calling scaling functions tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann

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