From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752022AbbJBWlJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Oct 2015 18:41:09 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:37828 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751473AbbJBWh7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Oct 2015 18:37:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:37:57 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Vlastimil Babka Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Jerome Marchand , Hugh Dickins , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Cyrill Gorcunov , Randy Dunlap , linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Martin Schwidefsky , Heiko Carstens , Peter Zijlstra , Paul Mackerras , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Oleg Nesterov , Linux API , Konstantin Khlebnikov Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm, procfs: Display VmAnon, VmFile and VmShm in /proc/pid/status Message-Id: <20151002153757.dcbf81604107580ef3ff6e65@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <1443792951-13944-5-git-send-email-vbabka@suse.cz> References: <1443792951-13944-1-git-send-email-vbabka@suse.cz> <1443792951-13944-5-git-send-email-vbabka@suse.cz> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.1 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:35:51 +0200 Vlastimil Babka wrote: > From: Jerome Marchand > > It's currently inconvenient to retrieve MM_ANONPAGES value from status > and statm files and there is no way to separate MM_FILEPAGES and > MM_SHMEMPAGES. Add RssAnon, RssFile and RssShm lines in /proc//status > to solve these issues. This changelog is also head-spinning. Why is it talking about MM_ANONPAGES and MM_FILEPAGES in the context of procfs files? Those terms are kernel-internal stuff and are meaningless to end users. So can we please start over with the changelogs? - What is wrong with the current user interface? - What changes are we proposing making? - What new fields are added to the UI? What is their meaning to users? - Are any existing UI fields altered? If so how and why and what impact will that have? Extra points will be awarded for example procfs output. This is the important stuff! Once this is all clearly described, understood and reviewed, then we can get into the kernel-internal-microdetails like MM_ANONPAGES. (And "What is wrong with the current user interface?" is important. What value does this patchset provide to end users? Why does anyone even want these changes?)