From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752690AbbJFJIh (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2015 05:08:37 -0400 Received: from mail.linuxfoundation.org ([140.211.169.12]:45652 "EHLO mail.linuxfoundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752596AbbJFJIf (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Oct 2015 05:08:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:08:21 +0100 From: Greg KH To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" , ming.lei@canonical.com, corbet@lwn.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, dhowells@redhat.com, seth.forshee@canonical.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mmarek@suse.cz, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, kyle@kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Andrew Morton , Kees Cook , Casey Schaufler , Takashi Iwai , =?utf-8?Q?Vojt=C4=9Bch_Pavl=C3=ADk?= Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] firmware: generalize "firmware" as "system data" helpers Message-ID: <20151006090821.GB9030@kroah.com> References: <1438725604-22795-1-git-send-email-mcgrof@do-not-panic.com> <1438725604-22795-2-git-send-email-mcgrof@do-not-panic.com> <20151004191602.GC9649@kroah.com> <20151005212222.GO14464@wotan.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151005212222.GO14464@wotan.suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Just responding to one thing at the moment: On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:22:22PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > * we should phase out the usermode helper from firmware_class long term You can "phase out", but you can not delete it as it's a user/kernel api that we have to support for forever, sorry. Also, for some devices / use cases, the usermode helper is the solution (think async loading of firmware when the host wants to do it.) thanks, greg k-h