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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/33] Compile-time stack metadata validation
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:14:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223081406.GA606@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1453405861.git.jpoimboe@redhat.com>


So I tried out this latest stacktool series and it looks mostly good for an 
upstream merge.

To help this effort move forward I've applied the preparatory/fix patches that are 
part of this series to tip:x86/debug - that's 26 out of 31 patches. (I've 
propagated all the acks that the latest submission got into the changelogs.)

I have 5 (easy to address) observations that need to be addressed before we can 
move on with the rest of the merge:

1)

Due to recent changes to x86 exception handling, I get a lot of bogus warnings 
about exception table sizes:

  stacktool: arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/mce.o: __ex_table size not a multiple of 24
  stacktool: arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/generic.o: __ex_table size not a multiple of 24
  stacktool: arch/x86/kernel/cpu/mtrr/cleanup.o: __ex_table size not a multiple of 24

this is due to:

  548acf19234d x86/mm: Expand the exception table logic to allow new handling options

2)

The fact that 'stacktool' already checks about assembly details like __ex_table[] 
shows that my review feedback early iterations of this series, that the 
'stacktool' name is too specific, was correct.

We really need to rename it before it gets upstream and the situation gets worse. 
__ex_table[] has obviously nothing to do with the 'stack layout' of binaries.

Another suitable name would be 'asmtool' or 'objtool'. For example the following 
would naturally express what it does:

  objtool check kernel/built-in.o

the name expresses that the tool checks object files, independently of the 
existing toolchain. Its primary purpose right now is the checking of stack layout 
details, but the tool is not limited to that at all.

3)

There's quite a bit of overhead when running the tool on larger object files, most 
prominently in cmd_check():

    62.06%  stacktool        stacktool                              [.] cmd_check
     6.72%  stacktool        stacktool                              [.] find_rela_by_dest_range

I added -g to the CFLAGS, which made it visible to annotated output of perf top:

    0.00 :        40430d:       lea    0x4(%rdx,%rax,1),%r13
         :      find_instruction():
         :                                                  struct section *sec,
         :                                                  unsigned long offset)
         :      {
         :              struct instruction *insn;
         :
         :              list_for_each_entry(insn, &file->insns, list)
    0.03 :        404312:       mov    0x38(%rsp),%rax
    0.00 :        404317:       cmp    %rbp,%rax
    0.00 :        40431a:       jne    404334 <cmd_check+0x5b4>
    0.00 :        40431c:       jmpq   4045ba <cmd_check+0x83a>
    0.00 :        404321:       nopl   0x0(%rax)
    6.14 :        404328:       mov    (%rax),%rax
    0.00 :        40432b:       cmp    %rbp,%rax
    2.02 :        40432e:       je     4045ba <cmd_check+0x83a>
         :                      if (insn->sec == sec && insn->offset == offset)
    0.55 :        404334:       cmp    %r12,0x10(%rax)
   87.91 :        404338:       jne    404328 <cmd_check+0x5a8>
    0.00 :        40433a:       cmp    %r13,0x18(%rax)
    3.36 :        40433e:       jne    404328 <cmd_check+0x5a8>
         :      get_jump_destinations():
         :                               * later in validate_functions().
         :                               */
         :                              continue;
         :                      }
         :
         :                      insn->jump_dest = find_instruction(file, dest_sec, dest_off);
    0.00 :        404340:       mov    %rax,0x48(%rbx)
    0.00 :        404344:       jmpq   4042b0 <cmd_check+0x530>
    0.00 :        404349:       nopl   0x0(%rax)
         :      fprintf():
         :
         :      # ifdef __va_arg_pack
         :      __fortify_function int
         :      fprintf (FILE *__restrict __stream, const char *__restrict __fmt, ...)
         :      {
         :        return __fprintf_chk (__stream, __USE_FORTIFY_LEVEL - 1, __fmt,

that looks like a linear list search? That would suck with thousands of entries.

(If this is non-trivial to improve then we can delay this optimization to a later 
patch.)

4)

I think the various 'STACKTOOL' flags in the kernel source are a bit of a misnomer 
- it's not the tool we want to name but the actual property of the code.

So instead of:

  STACKTOOL_IGNORE_FUNC(__bpf_prog_run);

we should do something like:

  STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD(__bpf_prog_run);

see how much more expressive it is? It becomes a function attribute independent of 
the tooling that makes use of it.

Similarly, for the highest level 'don't check these directories' makefile flags, 
I'd suggest, instead of using this rather opaque, tool dependent naming:

  STACKTOOL := n

something more specific, like:

  OBJECT_FILES_NON_STANDARD := y

which makes it clearer what's going on: these are special object files that are 
not the typical kernel object files.

Stacktool (or objtool) would be one consumer of this annotation.

I think Boris made similar observations in past reviews.

5)

Likewise, I think the CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION=y Kconfig flag does not express that 
we do exception table checks as well - and it does not express all the other 
things we may check in object files in the future.

Something like CONFIG_CHECK_OBJECT_FILES=y would express it, and the help text 
would list all the things the tool is able to checks for at the moment.

-------------------

Please send followup iterations of the series against the tip:x86/debug tree (or 
tip:master), to keep the size of the series down.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-21 22:49 [PATCH 00/33] Compile-time stack metadata validation Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 01/33] x86/stacktool: " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 02/33] kbuild/stacktool: Add CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION option Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 03/33] x86/stacktool: Enable stacktool on x86_64 Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 04/33] x86/stacktool: Add STACKTOOL_IGNORE_FUNC macro Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 05/33] x86/xen: Add stack frame dependency to hypercall inline asm calls Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:55   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:45   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 06/33] x86/asm/xen: Set ELF function type for xen_adjust_exception_frame() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:56   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:45   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 07/33] x86/asm/xen: Create stack frames in xen-asm.S Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:56   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:45   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 08/33] x86/paravirt: Add stack frame dependency to PVOP inline asm calls Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:56   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:46   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 09/33] x86/paravirt: Create a stack frame in PV_CALLEE_SAVE_REGS_THUNK Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:57   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:46   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 10/33] x86/amd: Set ELF function type for vide() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:57   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:46   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 11/33] x86/asm/crypto: Move .Lbswap_mask data to .rodata section Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:58   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:47   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 12/33] x86/asm/crypto: Move jump_table " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:58   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:47   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 13/33] x86/asm/crypto: Simplify stack usage in sha-mb functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:59   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:47   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 14/33] x86/asm/crypto: Don't use rbp as a scratch register Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:59   ` [tip:x86/debug] x86/asm/crypto: Don't use RBP " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:48   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 15/33] x86/asm/crypto: Create stack frames in crypto functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  8:59   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:48   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 16/33] x86/asm/entry: Create stack frames in thunk functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:00   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:48   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 17/33] x86/asm/acpi: Create a stack frame in do_suspend_lowlevel() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:00   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-23 11:39     ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-25  5:49   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 18/33] x86/asm: Create stack frames in rwsem functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:01   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:49   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 19/33] x86/asm/efi: Create a stack frame in efi_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:01   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:49   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 20/33] x86/asm/power: Create stack frames in hibernate_asm_64.S Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:01   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:50   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 21/33] x86/uaccess: Add stack frame output operand in get_user inline asm Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:02   ` [tip:x86/debug] x86/uaccess: Add stack frame output operand in get_user() " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgQ2hyaXMgSiBBcmdlcyA8dGlwYm90QHp5dG9yLmNvbT4=?=
2016-02-25  5:50   ` tip-bot for Chris J Arges
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 22/33] x86/asm/bpf: Annotate callable functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:02   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
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2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 23/33] x86/asm/bpf: Create stack frames in bpf_jit.S Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22  2:44   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-22  3:55     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22  4:18       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-22  7:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-22 15:58         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 17:18           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-22 17:36             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 17:40               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-02-23  9:03   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
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2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 24/33] x86/kprobes: Get rid of kretprobe_trampoline_holder() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 23:42   ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-02-23  9:03   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
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2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 25/33] x86/kvm: Set ELF function type for fastop functions Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 10:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-23  9:03   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
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2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 26/33] x86/kvm: Add stack frame dependency to test_cc() inline asm Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 10:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-22 16:02     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 16:16       ` [PATCH v16.1 26/33] x86/kvm: Make test_cc() always inline Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:04         ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:52         ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 27/33] watchdog/hpwdt: Create stack frame in asminline_call() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:04   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:52   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 28/33] x86/locking: Create stack frame in PV unlock Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:05   ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:52   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 29/33] x86/stacktool: Add directory and file whitelists Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 30/33] x86/xen: Add xen_cpuid() to stacktool whitelist Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 31/33] bpf: Add __bpf_prog_run() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:57   ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-01-22  2:55   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-22  4:13     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 17:19       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 32/33] sched: Add __schedule() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-21 22:49 ` [PATCH 33/33] x86/kprobes: Add kretprobe_trampoline() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 17:43 ` [PATCH 00/33] Compile-time stack metadata validation Chris J Arges
2016-01-22 19:14   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 20:40     ` Chris J Arges
2016-01-22 20:47       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 21:44         ` [PATCH 0/2] A few stacktool warning fixes Chris J Arges
2016-01-22 21:44           ` [PATCH 1/2] tools/stacktool: Add __reiserfs_panic to global_noreturns list Chris J Arges
2016-01-25 15:04             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-01-22 21:44           ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/kvm: Add output operand in vmx_handle_external_intr inline asm Chris J Arges
2016-01-25 15:05             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23  9:05             ` [tip:x86/debug] " =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgQ2hyaXMgSiBBcmdlcyA8dGlwYm90QHp5dG9yLmNvbT4=?=
2016-02-25  5:53             ` tip-bot for Chris J Arges
2016-02-12 10:36 ` [PATCH 00/33] Compile-time stack metadata validation Jiri Slaby
2016-02-12 10:41   ` Jiri Slaby
2016-02-12 14:45   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-12 17:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-12 18:32       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-12 18:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-12 20:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-15 16:31           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-15 16:49             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]             ` <CA+55aFzoPCd_LcSx1FUuEhSBYk2KrfzXGj-Vcn39W5bz=KuZhA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-15 20:01               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-18 17:41                 ` [PATCH] sched/x86: Add stack frame dependency to __preempt_schedule[_notrace] Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-19 12:05                   ` Jiri Slaby
2016-02-23  9:05                   ` [tip:x86/debug] sched/x86: Add stack frame dependency to __preempt_schedule[_notrace]() =?UTF-8?B?dGlwLWJvdCBmb3IgSm9zaCBQb2ltYm9ldWYgPHRpcGJvdEB6eXRvci5jb20+?=
2016-02-25  5:53                   ` tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-15 20:02               ` [PATCH 00/33] Compile-time stack metadata validation Andi Kleen
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2016-02-23 14:27   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-23 15:07     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-23 15:28       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-23 15:01   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-02-24  7:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-24 16:32       ` Josh Poimboeuf

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