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From: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's fw_cfg device
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:03:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160224000313.GO16357@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223160555-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 04:14:46PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 08:47:00AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 07:07:36AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:26:23PM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 08:06:17AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > > > > > +static void fw_cfg_io_cleanup(void)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +	if (fw_cfg_is_mmio) {
> > > > > > > > +		iounmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > > > > +		release_mem_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > > > > +		ioport_unmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > > > > +		release_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > > > > +	}
> > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +/* arch-specific ctrl & data register offsets are not available in ACPI, DT */
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So for all arches which support ACPI, I think this driver
> > > > > > > should just rely on ACPI.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There was a discussion about that a few versions ago, and IIRC the
> > > > > > conclusion was not to expect the firmware to contend for fw_cfg access
> > > > > > after the guest kernel boots:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/5/283
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So it looks like NVDIMM at least wants to pass label data to guest -
> > > > > for which fw cfg might be a reasonable choice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I suspect things changed - fw cfg used to be very slow but we now have
> > > > > DMA interface which makes it useful for a range of applications.
> > > 
> > > Comment on this? I'm really worried we'll release linux
> > > without a way to access fw cfg from aml.
> > > How about taking acpi lock around all accesses?
> > 
> > You mean something like this (haven't tried compiling it yet, so it
> > might be a bit more complicated, but just for the purpose of this
> > conversation):
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > index fedbff5..3462a2c 100644
> > --- a/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > +++ b/drivers/firmware/qemu_fw_cfg.c
> > @@ -77,12 +77,18 @@ static inline u16 fw_cfg_sel_endianness(u16 key)
> >  static inline void fw_cfg_read_blob(u16 key,
> >                                     void *buf, loff_t pos, size_t
> > count)
> >  {
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
> > +       acpi_os_acquire_mutex(acpi_gbl_osi_mutex, ACPI_WAIT_FOREVER);
> > +#endif
> >         mutex_lock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> >         iowrite16(fw_cfg_sel_endianness(key), fw_cfg_reg_ctrl);
> >         while (pos-- > 0)
> >                 ioread8(fw_cfg_reg_data);
> >         ioread8_rep(fw_cfg_reg_data, buf, count);
> >         mutex_unlock(&fw_cfg_dev_lock);
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
> > +       acpi_os_release_mutex(acpi_gbl_osi_mutex);
> > +#endif
> >  }
> >  
> >  /* clean up fw_cfg device i/o */
> 
> Fundamentally yes.
> 
> > I wouldn't particularly *mind* doing that, but I'd still like to hear
> > from other QEMU devs on whether it's really necessary.
> 
> It seems like a prudent thing to do IMHO, before this
> goes out to users.
> 
> [...]
> 
> On balance, I think locking ACPI solves most problems so
> if we just do that, I think what you did here is fine.

Only trouble is, acpi_gbl_osi_mutex seems to be "private" to the acpi
subsystem, and I'm not sure how well a patch to allow some random
module to lock/unlock ACPI at its convenience would be received...

So unless I'm missing something obvious (wouldn't be the first time),
I think we're back to where *if* we *have* to do this [*], providing an
AML blob-reader method in ACPI and punting to it from the guest-side
kernel module (via #ifdef CONFIG_ACPI) would be the less painful
alternative.

[*] that is, mutual exclusion between kernel and firmware regarding
    fw_cfg is (back) on the table, for real this time...

It would be good to know that it's the new consensus among QEMU
folks, since I have a strong feeling I'd no longer be "Keeping It Simple"
by moving in this direction.

Thanks,
--Gabriel

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-24  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 14:23 [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:06     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 17:20         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:26         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23  5:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 13:47             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23 14:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-24  0:03                 ` Gabriel L. Somlo [this message]
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] kobject: export kset_find_obj() for module use Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-07  7:24   ` Greg KH
2016-02-07 14:27     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] firmware: create directory hierarchy for sysfs fw_cfg entries Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] devicetree: update documentation for fw_cfg ARM bindings Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-03 22:47 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Matt Fleming
2016-02-10  1:38   ` Greg KH

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