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From: "George Spelvin" <linux@horizon.com>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: linux@horizon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/7] lib/hashmod: Add modulo based hash mechanism
Date: 28 Apr 2016 22:57:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160429025751.8368.qmail@ns.horizon.com> (raw)

Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> I'm not a hashing wizard and I completely failed to understand why
> hash_long/ptr are so horrible for the various test cases I ran.

It's very simple: the constants chosen are bit-sparse, *particularly*
in the least significant bits, and only 32/64 bits of the product are
kept.  Using the high-word of a double-width multiply is even better,
but some machines (*cough* SPARCv9 *cough*) don't have hardware
support for that.

So what you get is:

  (0x9e370001 * (x << 12)) & 0xffffffff
= (0x9e370001 * x & 0xfffff) << 12
= (0x70001 * x & 0xfffff) << 12

*Now* does it make sense?

64 bits is just as bad...  0x9e37fffffffc0001 becomes
0x7fffffffc0001, which is 2^51 - 2^18 + 1.


The challenge is the !CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_FAST_MULTIPLIER case,
when it has to be done with shifts and adds/subtracts.

Now, what's odd is that it's only relevant for 64-bit platforms, and
currently only x86 and POWER7+ have it.

SPARCv9, MIPS64, ARM64, SH64, PPC64, and IA64 all have it turned off.

Is this a bug that should be fixed?

In fact, do *any* 64-bit platforms need multiply emulation?

How many 32-bit platforms nead a multiplier that's easy for GCC to
evaluate via shifts and adds?

Generlly, by the time you've got a machine grunty enough to
need 64 bits, a multiplier is quite affordable.


Anyway, assuming there exists at least one platform that needs the
shift-and-add sequence, it's quite easy to get a higher hamming weight,
you just have to use a few more registers to save some intermediate
results.

E.g.

	u64 x = val, t = val, u;
	x <<= 2;
	u = x += t;	/* val * 5 */
	x <<= 4;	/* val * 80 */
	x -= u;		/* val * 75 = 0b1001011 */

Shall I try to come up with something?


Footnote: useful web pages on shift-and-add/subtract mutliplciation
http://www.vinc17.org/research/mulbyconst/index.en.html
http://www.spiral.net/hardware/multless.html

             reply	other threads:[~2016-04-29  2:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-29  2:57 George Spelvin [this message]
2016-04-29  3:16 ` [patch 2/7] lib/hashmod: Add modulo based hash mechanism Linus Torvalds
2016-04-29  4:12   ` George Spelvin
2016-04-29 23:31   ` George Spelvin
2016-04-30  0:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-30  0:32       ` George Spelvin
2016-04-30  1:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-30  3:04           ` George Spelvin
     [not found] <CA+55aFxBWfAHQNAdBbdVr+z8ror4GVteyce3D3=vwDWxhu5KqQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-30 20:52 ` George Spelvin
2016-05-01  8:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-01  9:43     ` George Spelvin
2016-05-01 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-14  3:54         ` George Spelvin
2016-05-14 18:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-05-02  7:11       ` Thomas Gleixner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-04-28 16:42 [patch 0/7] futex: Add support for process private hashing Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-28 16:42 ` [patch 2/7] lib/hashmod: Add modulo based hash mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-28 18:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-28 23:26     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-29  2:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-30 13:02         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-04-30 16:45           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-30 17:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-30 17:37               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-06-12 12:18         ` Sandy Harris
2016-04-29 21:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-29 23:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-04-30  1:34         ` Rik van Riel
2016-05-02  9:39         ` Torvald Riegel
2016-04-30 15:22       ` Thomas Gleixner

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