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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <sebastian@breakpoint.cc>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 2/7] futex: Hash private futexes per process
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 16:02:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160530140200.GE3193@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c36795eb-eeff-ea48-30cd-3333e121c7ee@linutronix.de>

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 03:59:51PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 05/30/2016 03:49 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> The same thing can happen within a Task if you take my story from above
> >> and replace task with thread. Completely understood.
> > 
> > Right; so I don't see the point of PREALLOCATE_HASH to cater for RT
> > workloads if it still doesn't guarantee anything, esp. if the failure
> > case is silent and obscure.
> 
> So what do you suggest? Adding trace points in order to learn about
> possible collisions or using tickets (on top of this) to guarantee
> being collision free?

I have no idea about the ticket stuff, i've not seen it. But yes, you
need to somehow guarantee no collisions.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-30 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-05 20:44 [patch V2 0/7] futex: Add support for process private hashing Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 1/7] futex: Add some more function commentry Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 17:37   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 2/7] futex: Hash private futexes per process Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:09   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-06 21:56     ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-11 21:08         ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-11 21:07       ` Darren Hart
2016-05-27 16:36       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-19 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 16:52     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:43       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 12:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 17:10     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 11:08         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 12:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 13:37             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 13:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-30 13:59                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30 14:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 4/7] futex: Add sysctl knobs for process private hash Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:22   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-27 17:33     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 3/7] futex: Add op for hash preallocation Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-06 18:18   ` Darren Hart
2016-05-07  8:47     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-07 11:40       ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-19 12:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 19:36         ` Darren Hart
2016-05-19 12:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 19:38     ` Darren Hart
2016-05-20  4:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 12:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-27 17:27     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-05-30  8:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 5/7] perf/bench/futex-hash: Support NUMA Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 6/7] perf/bench/futex-hash: Support preallocate hash table Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 20:44 ` [patch V2 7/7] futex.2: Document hash preallocation opcode Thomas Gleixner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-05-05 19:03 [patch V2 0/7] Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com>, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-05 19:03 ` [patch V2 2/7] futex: Hash private futexes per process Thomas Gleixner

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