From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753574AbcFOV51 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:57:27 -0400 Received: from merlin.infradead.org ([205.233.59.134]:38416 "EHLO merlin.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751921AbcFOV5X (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:57:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:57:16 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Waiman Long Cc: Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso , Jason Low , Dave Chinner , Scott J Norton , Douglas Hatch Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH-tip v2 5/6] locking/rwsem: Change RWSEM_WAITING_BIAS for better disambiguation Message-ID: <20160615215716.GX30921@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1465944489-43440-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hpe.com> <1465944489-43440-6-git-send-email-Waiman.Long@hpe.com> <20160615174348.GT30921@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <5761AD27.9020106@hpe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5761AD27.9020106@hpe.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 03:31:51PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: > On 06/15/2016 01:43 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 06:48:08PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: > >>even the reduced maximum of about 16k (32-bit) or 1G (64-bit) should > >>be more than enough for the foreseeable future. > >So what happens if I manage to create 16k+ threads on my 32bit kernel > >and get them all to do mmap() or so at the same time. > > > >That doesn't seem too far fetched. > > > >Then again, with double that (the current limit) that doesn't seem > >impossible either. > > To hit the limit, we need to have all the threads calling down_write() at > exactly the same instance in time which, I think, is pretty hard to do. > Also, I don't believe you will ever see a 16k-cpu massive SMP system running > on 32-bit kernel. I can imagine such a system running on 64-bit kernel, but > certainly not 32-bit. Ah, so I thought we kept the WRITE_BIAS while blocking, which we don't. But if they all get preempted before we undo the WRITE_BIAS then 1 CPU will be able to trigger this. However utterly unlikely.