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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
	Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH-tip v2 1/6] locking/osq: Make lock/unlock proper acquire/release barrier
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:45:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160617154536.GB1284@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <576416B1.6020006@hpe.com>

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 11:26:41AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 06/16/2016 08:48 PM, Boqun Feng wrote:
> >On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 05:35:54PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> >>If you look into the actual code:
> >>
> >>         next = xchg_release(&node->next, NULL);
> >>         if (next) {
> >>                 WRITE_ONCE(next->locked, 1);
> >>                 return;
> >>         }
> >>
> >>There is a control dependency that WRITE_ONCE() won't happen until
> >But a control dependency only orders LOAD->STORE pairs, right? And here
> >the control dependency orders the LOAD part of xchg_release() and the
> >WRITE_ONCE().
> >
> >Along with the fact that RELEASE only orders the STORE part of xchg with
> >the memory operations preceding the STORE part, so for the following
> >code:
> >
> >	WRTIE_ONCE(x,1);
> >	next = xchg_release(&node->next, NULL);
> >	if (next)
> >		WRITE_ONCE(next->locked, 1);
> >
> >such a reordering is allowed to happen on ARM64v8
> >
> >	next = ldxr [&node->next] // LOAD part of xchg_release()
> >
> >	if (next)
> >		WRITE_ONCE(next->locked, 1);
> >
> >	WRITE_ONCE(x,1);
> >	stlxr NULL [&node->next]  // STORE part of xchg_releae()
> >
> >Am I missing your point here?
> 
> My understanding of the release barrier is that both prior LOADs and STOREs
> can't move after the barrier. If WRITE_ONCE(x, 1) can move to below as shown
> above, it is not a real release barrier and we may need to change the
> barrier code.

You seem to be missing the point.

{READ,WRITE}_ONCE accesses appearing in program order after a release
are not externally ordered with respect to the release unless they
access the same location.

This is illustrated by Boqun's example, which shows two WRITE_ONCE
accesses being reordered before a store-release forming the write
component of an xchg_release. In both cases, WRITE_ONCE(x, 1) remains
ordered before the store-release.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 22:48 [RFC PATCH-tip v2 0/6] locking/rwsem: Enable reader optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 1/6] locking/osq: Make lock/unlock proper acquire/release barrier Waiman Long
2016-06-15  8:04   ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-15 17:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:01     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-16  2:19       ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-16 10:16         ` Will Deacon
2016-06-16 21:35         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17  0:48           ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-17 15:26             ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17 15:45               ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-06-17 18:17                 ` Waiman Long
2016-06-18  8:46                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-20  7:59                     ` Will Deacon
2016-06-15 16:56   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-15 17:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 18:27       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-15 18:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 18:56           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17  1:11           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17 14:28             ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17 16:29               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17 16:46                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-15 19:08       ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 20:04         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 21:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 2/6] locking/rwsem: Stop active read lock ASAP Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:17     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-16  2:14       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-16 21:25         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 3/6] locking/rwsem: Enable count-based spinning on reader Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:28     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 4/6] locking/rwsem: move down rwsem_down_read_failed function Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:21     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 5/6] locking/rwsem: Change RWSEM_WAITING_BIAS for better disambiguation Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:31     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 21:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 17:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:35     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 6/6] locking/rwsem: Enable spinning readers Waiman Long

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