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From: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Developers List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, smueller@chronox.de,
	andi@firstfloor.org, sandyinchina@gmail.com, jsd@av8n.com,
	hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:19:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160620051917.GA8719@gondor.apana.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160620050203.GC9848@thunk.org>

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 01:02:03AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> 
> It's work that I'm not convinced is worth the gain?  Perhaps I
> shouldn't have buried the lede, but repeating a paragraph from later
> in the message:
> 
>    So even if the AVX optimized is 100% faster than the generic version,
>    it would change the time needed to create a 256 byte session key from
>    1.68 microseconds to 1.55 microseconds.  And this is ignoring the
>    extra overhead needed to set up AVX, the fact that this will require
>    the kernel to do extra work doing the XSAVE and XRESTORE because of
>    the use of the AVX registers, etc.

We do have figures on the efficiency of the accelerated chacha
implementation on 256-byte requests (I've picked the 8-block
version):

testing speed of chacha20 (chacha20-generic) encryption
test 2 (256 bit key, 256 byte blocks): 12702056 operations in 10 seconds (3251726336 bytes)

testing speed of chacha20 (chacha20-simd) encryption
test 2 (256 bit key, 256 byte blocks): 33028112 operations in 10 seconds (8455196672 bytes)

So it is a little bit more than 100%.

> So in the absolute best case, this improves the time needed to create
> a 256 bit session key by 0.13 microseconds.  And that assumes that the
> extra setup and teardown overhead of an AVX optimized ChaCha20
> (including the XSAVE and XRESTORE of the AVX registers, etc.) don't
> end up making the CRNG **slower**.

The figures above include all of these overheads.  The overheads
really only show up on 16-byte requests.
 
> P.S.  I haven't measured this to see, mainly because I really don't
> care about the difference between 1.68 vs 1.55 microseconds, but there
> is a good chance in the crypto layer that it might be a good idea to
> have the system be smart enough to automatically fall back to using
> the **non** optimized version if you only need to encrypt a small
> amount of data.

You're right.  chacha20-simd should use the generic version on
16-byte requests which is the only place where it is slower.
Something like this:

---8<---
Subject: crypto: chacha20-simd - Use generic code for small requests

On 16-byte requests the optimised version is actually slower than
the generic code, so we should simply use that instead.

Signed-off-by: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>

diff --git a/arch/x86/crypto/chacha20_glue.c b/arch/x86/crypto/chacha20_glue.c
index 2d5c2e0b..f910d1d 100644
--- a/arch/x86/crypto/chacha20_glue.c
+++ b/arch/x86/crypto/chacha20_glue.c
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@ static int chacha20_simd(struct blkcipher_desc *desc, struct scatterlist *dst,
 	struct blkcipher_walk walk;
 	int err;
 
-	if (!may_use_simd())
+	if (nbytes <= CHACHA20_BLOCK_SIZE || !may_use_simd())
 		return crypto_chacha20_crypt(desc, dst, src, nbytes);
 
 	state = (u32 *)roundup((uintptr_t)state_buf, CHACHA20_STATE_ALIGN);

Cheers,
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-20  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-13 15:48 [PATCH-v4 0/7] random: replace urandom pool with a CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 1/7] random: initialize the non-blocking pool via add_hwgenerator_randomness() Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] random: print a warning for the first ten uninitialized random users Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 3/7] random: add interrupt callback to VMBus IRQ handler Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 4/7] random: properly align get_random_int_hash Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 5/7] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 18:00   ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-13 19:03     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-15 14:59   ` Herbert Xu
2016-06-19 23:18     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-20  1:25       ` Herbert Xu
2016-06-20  5:02         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-20  5:19           ` Herbert Xu [this message]
2016-06-20 15:01             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-20 15:49               ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-20 18:52                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-20 23:48                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-26 18:47       ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-26 19:10         ` Stephan Mueller
2016-06-26 22:51         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 6/7] random: make /dev/urandom scalable for silly userspace programs Theodore Ts'o
2016-08-21  9:53   ` Jan Varho
2016-08-21 11:36     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-13 15:48 ` [PATCH 7/7] random: add backtracking protection to the CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-06-26 18:47   ` Pavel Machek
2016-06-26 23:05     ` Theodore Ts'o

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