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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Oleg Drokin <green@linuxhacker.ru>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: Make creates return EEXIST correctly instead of EPERM
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:00:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160713190029.GB10459@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67C35F5E-7CB0-4CE9-998F-D9871E0DAF81@linuxhacker.ru>

On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:41:41PM -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> 
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Al Viro wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:47:22PM -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> > 
> >> I wonder if people just accept that "NFS is just weird" and code in workarounds,
> >> where as with Lustre we promise (almost) full POSIX compliance, and also came much later
> >> so people are just seeing that "this does not work" and complain more loudly?
> > 
> > To quote POSIX: "If more than one error occurs in processing a function call,
> > any one of the possible errors may be returned, as the order of detection is
> > undefined." (from System Interfaces: General Information: 2.3 Error Numbers)
> > 
> > And regarding mkdir(2) it has
> > [EACCES]
> >    Search permission is denied on a component of the path prefix, or write
> > permission is denied on the parent directory of the directory to be created.
> > [EEXIST]
> >    The named file exists.
> > among the error conditions.  In situations when both apply, the implementation
> > is bloody well allowed to return either.  It might be nicer to return EEXIST
> > in such cases, for consistency sake (if another thread does stat() on the
> > pathname in question just as you are about to call mkdir(2), you will get
> > EEXIST without ever reaching permission(9), let alone ->mkdir() method), but
> > please do not bring POSIX compliance as an argument.  It's a QoI argument and
> > nothing beyond that.
> 
> Ok, I see.
> Thanks.
> 
> Bruce, do you want the patch resubmitted with a rewritten commit message,
> or do you think it's best to just drop it them?

Other things being equal I still agree with you that there'd be
advantages to being more consistent, so a changelog update would be
fine.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08  1:47 [PATCH] nfsd: Make creates return EEXIST correctly instead of EPERM Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 11:02 ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 15:14   ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 15:53     ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 15:59       ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 16:17         ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 16:28           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  2:52         ` Al Viro
2016-07-09  2:58           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  3:13             ` Al Viro
2016-07-08 16:04       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 16:16         ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 20:49           ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 21:47             ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  3:10               ` Al Viro
2016-07-09  3:41                 ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-13 19:00                   ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2016-07-08 20:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 21:53   ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-21 20:34     ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-21 20:37       ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22  1:57         ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22  6:35           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22 10:55             ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 15:13               ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22 17:48                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 1/7] nfsd: Make creates return EEXIST instead of EACCES J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 2/7] nfsd: remove redundant zero-length check from create J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 3/7] nfsd: remove redundant i_lookup check J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-24  0:22                     ` Al Viro
2016-07-24 12:10                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-24 14:23                         ` Al Viro
2016-07-24 20:21                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 4/7] nfsd: reorganize nfsd_create J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 5/7] nfsd: remove unnecessary positive-dentry check J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 6/7] nfsd: clean up bad-type check in nfsd_create_locked J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 7/7] nfsd: drop unnecessary MAY_EXEC check from create J. Bruce Fields

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