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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linaro.org>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>,
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	"Bird, Timothy" <Tim.Bird@am.sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v16 0/4] Introduce usb charger framework to deal with the usb gadget power negotation
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:33:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160915103352.GC13132@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fag1b6r.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

Hi!

> > That's not actually 100% clear to me - for what the wm831x is doing it
> > probably *does* want the higher limit.  This is a system inflow limit
> > (as it should be for this), at least the charger will adapt to voltage
> > variations though other users in the system are much less likely to do
> > so.
> 
> Interesting ... I hadn't considered that possibility.
> 
> As long as the current remains below the maximum, the charger will
> reduce the voltage towards 2V as load increases.  Somewhere before it
> gets there, the system will not be able to make use of the power as the
> voltage will be too low to be usable. So that will naturally limit the
> current being drawn.
> 
> Not having very much electrical engineering background, I cannot say for
> sure what will happen, but it seems likely that once the voltage drops
> much below 4.75V, the charger won't be operating at peak efficiency,
> which would be a waste.
> I can easily imagine that the hardware would switch off at some voltage
> level, rather than just making do with what is there.
> So I'm skeptical of this approach, but I'm open to being corrected by
> someone more knowledgeable than I.

Devices I seen charge down to ~4.2V. This is useful thing to play
with:

dx.com: 406496
1" USB Current & Voltage Detector Tester Meter w/ Red LED Display -
Blue

Best regards,
								Pavel

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-15 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-01  7:09 [PATCH v16 0/4] Introduce usb charger framework to deal with the usb gadget power negotation Baolin Wang
2016-08-01  7:09 ` [PATCH v16 1/4] usb: gadget: Introduce the usb charger framework Baolin Wang
2016-08-01  7:09 ` [PATCH v16 2/4] usb: gadget: Support for " Baolin Wang
2016-08-01  7:09 ` [PATCH v16 3/4] usb: gadget: Integrate with the usb gadget supporting for usb charger Baolin Wang
2016-08-01  7:09 ` [PATCH v16 4/4] power: wm831x_power: Support USB charger current limit management Baolin Wang
2016-08-11  3:14 ` [PATCH v16 0/4] Introduce usb charger framework to deal with the usb gadget power negotation Baolin Wang
2016-08-29  9:02   ` Baolin Wang
2016-09-06  5:40     ` NeilBrown
2016-09-06  7:40       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-09-08  6:55       ` Baolin Wang
2016-09-08  7:31         ` NeilBrown
2016-09-08  8:12           ` Baolin Wang
2016-09-08 23:13             ` NeilBrown
2016-09-09  6:46               ` Baolin Wang
2016-09-09 21:19                 ` NeilBrown
2016-09-18  9:39                   ` Baolin Wang
2016-10-05  7:26                     ` Baolin Wang
2016-10-05  7:47                       ` Felipe Balbi
2016-10-05  7:57                         ` Baolin Wang
2016-10-05 10:44                         ` NeilBrown
2016-10-08  3:18                           ` Baolin Wang
2016-09-09 11:07               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 21:57                 ` NeilBrown
2016-09-12 12:25                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-12 13:27                     ` NeilBrown
2016-09-12 15:26                       ` Mark Brown
2016-09-13  8:00                         ` NeilBrown
2016-09-14 11:16                           ` Mark Brown
2016-09-14 14:11                             ` NeilBrown
2016-09-14 14:57                               ` Mark Brown
2016-09-14 17:50                                 ` NeilBrown
2016-09-14 18:02                                   ` Mark Brown
2016-09-15 10:33                           ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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