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From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
To: Andy Grover <agrover@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	snitzer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Generate uevents for all DM events
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 01:40:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161005004004.GC28416@agk-dp.fab.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe185eba-f802-6731-8da7-736c117db135@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 04:39:28PM -0700, Andy Grover wrote:
> devicemapper is using uevents for:
> a. dm-verity detected corruption
> b. dm-multipath: path failed or reinstated
> c. dm device renamed
> d. there's also some use in md and bcache.
>
> devicemapper uses DM_EVENT ioctl (yuck) for:
> 1. dm-thin pool data/metadata filling up (hit a threshold)
> 2. dm-cache is now clean
> 3. dm-log flushed or log failed
> 4. dm-raid error detected or sync complete

> there doesn't seem to be much technical differentiation between the  
> two lists.

The distinction in dm is that events in the first category may affect
the availability of the device: they represent major (and hopefully
rare) changes.

Events in the second category are just notifications: no impact on /dev,
no need to trigger udev rules, and their use will continue to be
extended, and (rarely at the moment) could be frequent (which is no
problem for the existing polling-based mechanism).

> Instead of using uevent for everything, we could go to a separate  
> genetlink for 1-4 instead of making them use uevent like a-d, but we'd  
> end up with two different userspace notification techniques.

We see these as two different categories of notifications, and prefer
the greater flexibility a mechanism independent of uevents would
provide.  The team has discussed several alternatives over the years but
didn't make a decision as we've not yet reached a point where we're
straining the existing mechanism too far.

Alasdair

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-05  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-03 19:22 [PATCH 0/9] Generate uevents for all DM events Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] dm: Do not export dm_send_uevents Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] dm: Move multipath-specific stuff out of dm-uevent.c Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] dm: Inline dm_build_path_uevent into dm_path_uevent Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] dm: Update dm-uevent.txt Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 5/9] dm: Rename dm_build_uevent to dm_uevent_build Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 6/9] dm: Rename dm_event_add to dm_event_queue Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 7/9] dm: Implement dm_uevent_add() Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:22 ` [PATCH 8/9] dm: Generate uevents for thin targets Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] dm: Generate uevents for other targets Andy Grover
2016-10-03 19:29 ` [PATCH 0/9] Generate uevents for all DM events Mike Snitzer
2016-10-04  7:20 ` Greg KH
2016-10-04 23:39   ` Andy Grover
2016-10-05  0:40     ` Alasdair G Kergon [this message]
2016-10-05  6:26       ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2016-10-05  6:51       ` Greg KH
2016-10-05 17:06         ` Andy Grover
2016-10-05 17:43           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2016-10-05 22:30             ` Andy Grover

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