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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo@padovan.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, marcheu@google.com,
	Daniel Stone <daniels@collabora.com>,
	seanpaul@google.com, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>,
	John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>,
	m.chehab@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 0/3] drm: add explict fencing
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:32:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161108113256.q52243qihb6kwe2h@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161108103508.GH18604@nuc-i3427.alporthouse.com>

On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 10:35:08AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 03:54:47PM +0900, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> > From: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is yet another version of the DRM fences patches. Please refer
> > to the cover letter[1] in a previous version to check for more details.
> 
> Explicit fencing is not a superset of the implicit fences. The driver
> may be using implicit fences (on a reservation object) to serialise
> asynchronous operations wrt to each other (such as dispatching threads
> to flush cpu caches to memory, manipulating page tables and the like
> before the flip).  Since the user doesn't know about these operations,
> they are not included in the explicit fence they provide, at which point
> we can't trust their fence to the exclusion of the implicit fences...

My thoughts are that in atomic_check drivers just fill in the fence from
the reservation_object (i.e. the uapi implicit fencing part). If there's
any additional work that's queued up in ->prepare_fb then I guess the
driver needs to track that internally, but _only_ for kernel-internally
queued work.

The reason for that is that with explicit fencing we want to allow
userspace to overwrite any existing implicit fences that might hang
around.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-08 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-08  6:54 [PATCH v7 0/3] drm: add explict fencing Gustavo Padovan
2016-11-08  6:54 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] drm/fence: add in-fences support Gustavo Padovan
2016-11-08 11:06   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-08 15:27   ` Brian Starkey
2016-11-08 16:11     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-08  6:54 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] drm/fence: add fence timeline to drm_crtc Gustavo Padovan
2016-11-08  6:54 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] drm/fence: add out-fences support Gustavo Padovan
2016-11-08 13:15   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-09  2:39     ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-11-09 10:18       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-08 15:36   ` Brian Starkey
2016-11-08 10:35 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] drm: add explict fencing Chris Wilson
2016-11-08 11:32   ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2016-11-08 11:45     ` Chris Wilson
2016-11-08 12:43       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-08 12:52         ` Chris Wilson
2016-11-08 12:44       ` Christian König
2016-11-08 12:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-08 13:18 ` Daniel Vetter

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