From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "zhichang.yuan" <yuanzhichang@hisilicon.com>,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
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kantyzc@163.com, xuwei5@hisilicon.com, marc.zyngier@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/3] ARM64 LPC: Add missing range exception for special ISA
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 17:10:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161108171004.GF15297@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2368890.jTbyGqYR0M@wuerfel>
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 05:19:54PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:49:53 AM CET Mark Rutland wrote:
> > My understanding of ISA (which may be flawed) is that it's not part of
> > the PCI host bridge, but rather on x86 it happens to share the IO space
> > with PCI.
>
> On normal systems, ISA or LPC are behind a PCI bridge device, which
> passes down both low addresses of I/O space and memory space.
Ok, so the use of those address spaces is an artifact of the ISA
controller being a device under the PCI host bridge.
Given we can have multiple domains, surely that implies we can have
multiple ISA controllers in general?
> > I believe that we could theoretically have multiple independent LPC/ISA
> > busses, as is possible with PCI on !x86 systems. If the current ISA code
> > assumes a singleton bus, I think that's something that needs to be fixed
> > up more generically.
> >
> > I don't see why we should need any architecture-specific code here. Why
> > can we not fix up the ISA bus code in drivers/of/address.c such that it
> > handles multiple ISA bus instances, and translates all sub-device
> > addresses relative to the specific bus instance?
>
> I think it is a relatively safe assumption that there is only one
> ISA bridge. A lot of old drivers hardcode PIO or memory addresses
> when talking to an ISA device, so having multiple instances is
> already problematic.
I'm worried that this might not be a safe assumption. Hardware these
days has a habit of pushing the boundaries of our expectations.
If we're going to assume that, I'd certainly want the kernel to verify
that it's true for all instanciated ISA/LPC devices. Otherwise, I can
imagine people relying on (or working around) that assumption in ACPI
tables and DTs, and that will be a nightmare (at best) to untangle in
future.
Thanks,
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-08 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-08 3:47 [PATCH V5 0/3] ARM64 LPC: legacy ISA I/O support zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 3:47 ` [PATCH V5 1/3] ARM64 LPC: Indirect ISA port IO introduced zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 12:03 ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 16:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-10 8:33 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 11:22 ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10 19:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-11 10:07 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 9:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 11:12 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 12:58 ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:12 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 16:33 ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:49 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 17:05 ` John Garry
2016-11-08 22:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 11:29 ` John Garry
2016-11-09 21:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-22 8:15 ` Ming Lei
2016-12-23 1:43 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-12-23 7:24 ` Ming Lei
2017-01-06 11:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 3:47 ` [PATCH V5 2/3] ARM64 LPC: Add missing range exception for special ISA zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 5:17 ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 5:27 ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 11:49 ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 17:10 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-11-09 13:54 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-09 14:51 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-14 11:11 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-18 9:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:20 ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10 7:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:39 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-09 16:16 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 16:50 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-10 6:24 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 16:06 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 10:37 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-08 3:47 ` [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on Hip06 zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 6:11 ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 16:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 12:10 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 6:40 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 9:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 12:36 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 15:36 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-10 16:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-11 10:09 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-11 10:48 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-11 13:39 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 14:45 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-11 15:53 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 18:16 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-14 8:26 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-14 11:26 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-18 10:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 12:07 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 12:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 12:53 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 13:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 16:18 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 16:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 17:03 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 14:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 15:22 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 17:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 23:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24 9:12 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-24 10:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25 8:46 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-25 12:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25 16:27 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 16:54 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-14 11:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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