From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935050AbcKJQgL (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:36:11 -0500 Received: from atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz ([195.113.26.193]:56336 "EHLO atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934104AbcKJQgK (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Nov 2016 11:36:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 17:36:06 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Jacek Anaszewski Cc: Hans de Goede , Jacek Anaszewski , Tony Lindgren , linux-leds@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Darren Hart Subject: Re: PM regression with LED changes in next-20161109 Message-ID: <20161110163606.GD28832@amd> References: <20161109192301.GS26979@atomide.com> <28234714-3994-6747-9cf8-1ff0b3257f7a@gmail.com> <5bd5333e-0dbb-6333-0a48-ca4d3a990f9c@samsung.com> <7cc1ba55-1bd0-ae3f-5c9b-f16efb8dcc80@samsung.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AkbCVLjbJ9qUtAXD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7cc1ba55-1bd0-ae3f-5c9b-f16efb8dcc80@samsung.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --AkbCVLjbJ9qUtAXD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! > >>>The current docs say not about (sw) blinking, but that should be treat= ed > >>>just > >>>like a trigger IMHO. > >> > >>You'r right, we should describe the semantics on reading, but it would > >>have to be as follows: > >> > >>Reading from this file returns LED brightness at given moment, i.e. > >>even though LED class device brightness setting is greater than 0, the > >>momentary brightness can be 0 if the readout occurred during low phase > >>of blink cycle. > > > >Why would it need to read like this, because this is the current behavio= r ? >=20 > We have led_update_brightness() which was introduced long time ago and > is used in brightness_show(). Note that if LED controller changed > actual LED brightness e.g. due to battery voltage dropping below > certain threshold, we wouldn't be able to find it out otherwise > (except if we added separate sysfs file for that). And we should have a separate sysfs file for that. Note that on some hardware leds, you are able to let hardware control them, but if you do, you can't really tell the current state. Examples are n900 and thinkpad-acpi. So it is better we don't pretend we can get that value for userspace. Pavel --=20 (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html --AkbCVLjbJ9qUtAXD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlgkofYACgkQMOfwapXb+vJZAgCgpeZKks6yw8bm7Pg1TBobhYMN dagAoLC7Q4i37KVwL/KgqQvBLcyZIoSx =3Nms -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AkbCVLjbJ9qUtAXD--