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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] spinlock_debug: report spinlock lockup from unlock
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 19:50:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161219105008.GA24780@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161219102024.GC3107@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hello,

On (12/19/16 11:20), Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 01:19:11AM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > There is a race window between the point when __spin_lock_debug()
> > detects spinlock lockup and the time when CPU that caused the
> > lockup receives its backtrace interrupt.
> > 
> > Before __spin_lock_debug() triggers all_cpu_backtrace() it calls
> > spin_dump() to printk() the current state of the lock and CPU
> > backtrace. These printk() calls can take some time to print the
> > messages to serial console, for instance (we are not talking
> > about console_unlock() loop and a flood of messages from other
> > CPUs, but just spin_dump() printk() and serial console).
> > 
> > All those preparation steps can give CPU that caused the lockup
> > enough time to run away, so when it receives a backtrace interrupt
> > it can look completely innocent.
> > 
> > The patch extends `struct raw_spinlock' with additional variable
> > that stores jiffies of successful do_raw_spin_lock() and checks
> > in debug_spin_unlock() whether the spin_lock has been locked for
> > too long. So we will have a reliable backtrace from CPU that
> > locked up and a reliable backtrace from CPU that caused the
> > lockup.
> 
> But why?

my setups printk() to a slow serial console; so spin_dump() from
locked up CPU spends enough time on printing to render all-CPU-backtrace
useless: a CPU that caused the lockup may be in user space or somewhere
else by the time locked-up CPU finally asks it to IPI/NMI backtrace.

CPU1					CPU2
					spin_lock(&lock)
spin_lock(&lock)
 spin_dump()
  printk()
  printk()				spin_unlock(&lock)
  printk()
  ...
  trigger_all_cpu_backtrace()
   send out IPI/NMI
  					-> backtrace IPI/NMI.
					   may be irrelevant at this
					   point.

which complicates analysis, when spinlock can be taken from multiple
paths.

the amount of time spent in spin_dump() also depends on the
dump_stack() - the deeper the call stack is the more time we
give to CPU that cause the lock up.


> Also, why jiffies, that's a horrible source of time.

well, __spin_lock_debug() sort of depends on jiffies: `loops_per_jiffy * HZ',
so I also used jiffies. can use something better. like actual time (?)

	lock()
		lock->acquired = running_clock() >> 30LL
	
	unlock()
		(running_clock() >> 30LL) - lock->acquired >= 1

	-ss

      reply	other threads:[~2016-12-19 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17 16:19 [RFC][PATCH] spinlock_debug: report spinlock lockup from unlock Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-19  0:11 ` [lkp-developer] [spinlock_debug] bb161feebc: BUG:spinlock_missed_unlock_deadline_on_CPU kernel test robot
2016-12-19 11:55   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-12-19 10:20 ` [RFC][PATCH] spinlock_debug: report spinlock lockup from unlock Peter Zijlstra
2016-12-19 10:50   ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]

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