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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@systec-electronic.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] arm: perf: Mark as non-removable
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 18:17:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170104181717.GT18193@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170104114612.GF8329@leverpostej>

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 11:46:13AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 11:40:56AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 11:30:25AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:19:46AM +0100, Alexander Stein wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure if the change above works with remove functions set in struct 
> > > > bus_type too.
> > > > But on the other hand this would hide errors in drivers which are actually 
> > > > removable but do not cleanup properly which DEBUG_TEST_DRIVER_REMOVE tries to 
> > > > detect.
> > > > By setting .suppress_bind_attrs = true explicitely you state "This 
> > > > driver cannot be removed!", so the remove callback is not missing by accident.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure I follow. If the remove callback is accidentally missing,
> > > the driver is not "actually removable" today -- there's either no remove
> > > code, or it's not been wired up (the latter of which will likely result
> > > in a compiler warning about an unused function).
> > > 
> > > Aborting the remove early in those cases is much safer than forcefully
> > > removing a driver without a remove callback.
> > 
> > Drivers without a remove function may be removable - there's more layers
> > than just the driver - there's the bus layer as well, which may or may
> > not direct to a private-bus pointer.
> 
> Sure; which is why I initially suggested doing something at the bus
> layer. That way, each layer could do any necessary check, and/or
> delegate to a callback for the layer below.
> 
> > There's no real way for the core driver model code to know whether the
> > lack of the ->remove in the struct device_driver is something that
> > prevents a driver being removed, or whether it's handled via some other
> > method.  Eg, platform drivers.
> 
> While true today, my suggestion is to add the infrastrucutre such that
> it can. That seems nicer to me than each driver having to retain
> (redundant) state.
> 
> Regardless, this patch itself is fine.

Well, it's also largely incomplete as you point out, so I don't think
we gain an awful lot from merging it as-is.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-04 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-21 15:03 [PATCH v2 0/2] mark driver as non-removable Alexander Stein
2016-12-21 15:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] drivers/perf: arm_pmu: Use devm_ allocators Alexander Stein
2016-12-21 15:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] arm: perf: Mark as non-removable Alexander Stein
2016-12-22 22:48   ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-04  9:19     ` Alexander Stein
2017-01-04 11:30       ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-04 11:40         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-04 11:46           ` Mark Rutland
2017-01-04 18:17             ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-12-21 23:17 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mark driver " Russell King - ARM Linux

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