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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Cc: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 09:30:55 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170117113052.GA27759@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170117080327.GG14227@localhost>

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 09:03:27AM +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 06:01:14PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:47:15PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 05:36:55PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > Sorry, unless i am misunderstanding how this works, it'll get the guest clock
> > > > 2us behind, which is something not wanted.
> > > > 
> > > > Miroslav, if ->gettime64 returns the host realtime at 2us in the past, 
> > > > this means Chrony will sync the guest clock to
> > > > 
> > > > host realtime - 2us
> > > > 
> > > > Is that correct?
> 
> Probably. It depends on the error of both host and guest timestamps.
> If the error is the same on both sides, it will cancel out. An
> occasional spike in the delay shouldn't be a problem as the reading
> will be filtered out, but for best accuracy it's necessary that the
> host's timestamp is taken in the middle between the guest's
> timestamps.

The problem is that spikes can be far from occasional: it depends on activity of
the host CPU and interrupts. Whose delay can be "intermittent": as long
as interrupts are being sent to the host CPU, for example, the delay
will be high (which can last minutes).

The TSC reading in the guest KVM PTP driver corrects for that delay.

> Users of the PTP_SYS_OFFSET ioctl assume that (ts[0]+ts[2])/2
> corresponds to ts[1], (ts[2]+ts[4])/2 corresponds to ts[3], and so on.
> 
>                     ts[1]     ts[3]
> Host time    ---------+---------+........
>                       |         |
>                       |         |
> Guest time   ----+---------+---------+......
>                 ts[0]    ts[2]     ts[4]
> 
> -- 
> Miroslav Lichvar

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13 12:01 [patch 0/3] KVM virtual PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 1/3] KVM: x86: provide realtime host clock via vsyscall notifiers Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:18   ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:34     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 16:28       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:51         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 15:40           ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:41     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-01-13 15:46       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 2/3] KVM: x86: add KVM_HC_CLOCK_OFFSET hypercall Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:31   ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 15:43     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 17:07       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:57         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 12:01 ` [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 15:56   ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 17:40     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 16:26       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 16:54         ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:08           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 17:27             ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:39               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 18:01                 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 19:36                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 19:47                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 20:01                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-17  8:03                         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-17 11:30                           ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2017-01-17 15:36                             ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 12:17                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 12:24                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 12:46                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 13:36                                     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-18 14:02                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 14:50                                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:35                                           ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:45                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 15:57                                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 14:24                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:54                                       ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-18 16:07                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-18 16:14                                         ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 14:37                                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 14:53                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-18 15:20                                         ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:28                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 14:18                                             ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-18 15:59                                     ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 17:04         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-16 17:46           ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-16 19:33             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-14 15:26     ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-16 15:48       ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-13 18:45 [patch 0/3] KVM virtual PTP driver (v2) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-13 18:46 ` [patch 3/3] PTP: add kvm PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti

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