From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
djwong@kernel.org, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
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LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] Revert "ext4: fix wrong gfp type under transaction"
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:44:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170126074455.GC8456@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170119094405.GK30786@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu 19-01-17 10:44:05, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 19-01-17 10:22:36, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Thu 19-01-17 09:39:56, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Tue 17-01-17 18:29:25, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > > On Tue 17-01-17 17:16:19, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > > But before going to play with that I am really wondering whether we need
> > > > > > > all this with no journal at all. AFAIU what Jack told me it is the
> > > > > > > journal lock(s) which is the biggest problem from the reclaim recursion
> > > > > > > point of view. What would cause a deadlock in no journal mode?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We still have the original problem for why we need GFP_NOFS even in
> > > > > > ext2. If we are in a writeback path, and we need to allocate memory,
> > > > > > we don't want to recurse back into the file system's writeback path.
> > > > >
> > > > > But we do not enter the writeback path from the direct reclaim. Or do
> > > > > you mean something other than pageout()'s mapping->a_ops->writepage?
> > > > > There is only try_to_release_page where we get back to the filesystems
> > > > > but I do not see any NOFS protection in ext4_releasepage.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe to expand a bit: These days, direct reclaim can call ->releasepage()
> > > > callback, ->evict_inode() callback (and only for inodes with i_nlink > 0),
> > > > shrinkers. That's it. So the recursion possibilities are rather more limited
> > > > than they used to be several years ago and we likely do not need as much
> > > > GFP_NOFS protection as we used to.
> > >
> > > Thanks for making my remark more clear Jack! I would just want to add
> > > that I was playing with the patch below (it is basically
> > > GFP_NOFS->GFP_KERNEL for all allocations which trigger warning from the
> > > debugging patch which means they are called from within transaction) and
> > > it didn't hit the lockdep when running xfstests both with or without the
> > > enabled journal.
> > >
> > > So am I still missing something or the nojournal mode is safe and the
> > > current series is OK wrt. ext*?
> >
> > I'm convinced the current series is OK, only real life will tell us whether
> > we missed something or not ;)
>
> I would like to extend the changelog of "jbd2: mark the transaction
> context with the scope GFP_NOFS context".
>
> "
> Please note that setups without journal do not suffer from potential
> recursion problems and so they do not need the scope protection because
> neither ->releasepage nor ->evict_inode (which are the only fs entry
> points from the direct reclaim) can reenter a locked context which is
> doing the allocation currently.
> "
Could you comment on this Ted, please?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-26 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-06 14:10 [PATCH 0/8 v3] scope GFP_NOFS api Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] lockdep: allow to disable reclaim lockup detection Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 12:56 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 2/8] xfs: abstract PF_FSTRANS to PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 12:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 20:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 13:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 13:42 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 13:59 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 14:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] xfs: use memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} instead of memalloc_noio* Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 14:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-01-09 14:25 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-09 15:56 ` Brian Foster
2017-01-09 20:59 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] jbd2: mark the transaction context with the scope GFP_NOFS context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] jbd2: make the whole kjournald2 kthread NOFS safe Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] Revert "ext4: avoid deadlocks in the writeback path by using sb_getblk_gfp" Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 3:01 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17 7:54 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] Revert "ext4: fix wrong gfp type under transaction" Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 2:56 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17 8:24 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 15:18 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 15:59 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-17 16:16 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 17:29 ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19 8:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-19 9:22 ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19 9:44 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-26 7:44 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-01-27 6:13 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-27 9:37 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-27 16:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-01-28 7:32 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-28 8:17 ` David Lang
2017-01-30 8:12 ` Michal Hocko
2017-02-03 15:32 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 21:04 ` Andreas Dilger
2017-01-18 8:29 ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:18 ` [DEBUG PATCH 0/2] debug explicit GFP_NO{FS,IO} usage from the scope context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:18 ` [DEBUG PATCH 1/2] mm, debug: report when GFP_NO{FS,IO} is used explicitly from memalloc_no{fs,io}_{save,restore} context Michal Hocko
2017-01-06 14:18 ` [DEBUG PATCH 2/2] silent warnings which we cannot do anything about Michal Hocko
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