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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 11/37] HACK: readahead: alloc huge pages, if allowed
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 06:51:58 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170210145158.GA2267@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7D35EB8E-29F8-41DA-BB46-8BCF7B6C5A72@dilger.ca>

On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 05:23:31PM -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > Well ... what if we made readahead 2 hugepages in size for inodes which
> > are using huge pages?  That's only 8x our current readahead window, and
> > if you're asking for hugepages, you're accepting that IOs are going to
> > be larger, and you probably have the kind of storage system which can
> > handle doing larger IOs.
> 
> It would be nice if the bdi had a parameter for the maximum readahead size.
> Currently, readahead is capped at 2MB chunks by force_page_cache_readahead()
> even if bdi->ra_pages and bdi->io_pages are much larger.
> 
> It should be up to the filesystem to decide how large the readahead chunks
> are rather than imposing some policy in the MM code.  For high-speed (network)
> storage access it is better to have at least 4MB read chunks, for RAID storage
> it is desirable to have stripe-aligned readahead to avoid read inflation when
> verifying the parity.  Any fixed size will eventually be inadequate as disks
> and filesystems change, so it may as well be a per-bdi tunable that can be set
> by the filesystem as needed, or possibly with a mount option if needed.

I think the filesystem should provide a hint, but ultimately it needs to
be up to the MM to decide how far to readahead.  The filesystem doesn't
(and shouldn't) have the global view into how much memory is available
for readahead, nor should it be tracking how well this app is being
served by readahead.

That 2MB chunk restriction is allegedly there "so that we don't pin too
much memory at once".  Maybe that should be scaled with the amount of
memory in the system (pinning 2MB of a 256MB system is a bit different
from pinning 2MB of a 1TB memory system).

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-10 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-26 11:57 [PATCHv6 00/37] ext4: support of huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 01/37] mm, shmem: swich huge tmpfs to multi-order radix-tree entries Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09  3:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-09 16:58     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13 13:43       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 02/37] Revert "radix-tree: implement radix_tree_maybe_preload_order()" Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 15:38   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 03/37] page-flags: relax page flag policy for few flags Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09  4:01   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 13:59     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 04/37] mm, rmap: account file thp pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 20:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 05/37] thp: try to free page's buffers before attempt split Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 20:14   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 14:32     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 06/37] thp: handle write-protection faults for file THP Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 15:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 15:57     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 20:19   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 07/37] filemap: allocate huge page in page_cache_read(), if allowed Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 21:18   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 15:17     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 08/37] filemap: handle huge pages in do_generic_file_read() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 21:55   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 15:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-13 16:01       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 16:09         ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-13 16:28   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 09/37] filemap: allocate huge page in pagecache_get_page(), if allowed Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 21:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 10/37] filemap: handle huge pages in filemap_fdatawait_range() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 23:03   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 11/37] HACK: readahead: alloc huge pages, if allowed Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-09 23:34   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-02-10  0:23     ` Andreas Dilger
2017-02-10 14:51       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 12/37] brd: make it handle huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-10 17:24   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 13/37] mm: make write_cache_pages() work on " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-10 17:46   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 14/37] thp: introduce hpage_size() and hpage_mask() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 15/37] thp: do not threat slab pages as huge in hpage_{nr_pages,size,mask} Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-10 22:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 16/37] thp: make thp_get_unmapped_area() respect S_HUGE_MODE Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-10 17:50   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:57 ` [PATCHv6 17/37] fs: make block_read_full_page() be able to read huge page Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-02-10 17:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 18/37] fs: make block_write_{begin,end}() be able to handle huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 19/37] fs: make block_page_mkwrite() aware about " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 20/37] truncate: make truncate_inode_pages_range() " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 21/37] truncate: make invalidate_inode_pages2_range() " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 22/37] mm, hugetlb: switch hugetlbfs to multi-order radix-tree entries Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 23/37] mm: account huge pages to dirty, writaback, reclaimable, etc Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 24/37] ext4: make ext4_mpage_readpages() hugepage-aware Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 25/37] ext4: make ext4_writepage() work on huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 26/37] ext4: handle huge pages in ext4_page_mkwrite() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 27/37] ext4: handle huge pages in __ext4_block_zero_page_range() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 28/37] ext4: make ext4_block_write_begin() aware about huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 29/37] ext4: handle huge pages in ext4_da_write_end() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 30/37] ext4: make ext4_da_page_release_reservation() aware about huge pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 31/37] ext4: handle writeback with " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 32/37] ext4: make EXT4_IOC_MOVE_EXT work " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 33/37] ext4: fix SEEK_DATA/SEEK_HOLE for " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 34/37] ext4: make fallocate() operations work with " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 35/37] ext4: reserve larger jounral transaction for " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 36/37] mm, fs, ext4: expand use of page_mapping() and page_to_pgoff() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-01-26 11:58 ` [PATCHv6 37/37] ext4, vfs: add huge= mount option Kirill A. Shutemov

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