From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755020AbdCGMSn (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2017 07:18:43 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:39546 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754812AbdCGMS0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Mar 2017 07:18:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 11:05:45 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Andrew Morton Cc: Johannes Weiner , Shaohua Li , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kernel-team@fb.com, minchan@kernel.org, hughd@google.com, riel@redhat.com, mgorman@techsingularity.net Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 6/6] proc: show MADV_FREE pages info in smaps Message-ID: <20170307100545.GC28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <89efde633559de1ec07444f2ef0f4963a97a2ce8.1487965799.git.shli@fb.com> <20170301133624.GF1124@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170301183149.GA14277@cmpxchg.org> <20170301185735.GA24905@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170302140101.GA16021@cmpxchg.org> <20170302163054.GR1404@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20170303161027.6fe4ceb0bcd27e1dbed44a5d@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170303161027.6fe4ceb0bcd27e1dbed44a5d@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri 03-03-17 16:10:27, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:30:54 +0100 Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > It's not that I think you're wrong: it *is* an implementation detail. > > > But we take a bit of incoherency from batching all over the place, so > > > it's a little odd to take a stand over this particular instance of it > > > - whether demanding that it'd be fixed, or be documented, which would > > > only suggest to users that this is special when it really isn't etc. > > > > I am not aware of other counter printed in smaps that would suffer from > > the same problem, but I haven't checked too deeply so I might be wrong. > > > > Anyway it seems that I am alone in my position so I will not insist. > > If we have any bug report then we can still fix it. > > A single lru_add_drain_all() right at the top level (in smaps_show()?) > won't kill us I do not think we want to put lru_add_drain_all cost to a random process reading /proc//smaps. If anything the one which does the madvise should be doing this. > and should significantly improve this issue. And it > might accidentally make some of the other smaps statistics more > accurate as well. > > If not, can we please have a nice comment somewhere appropriate which > explains why LazyFree is inaccurate and why we chose to leave it that > way? Yeah, I would appreciate the comment more. What about the following --- diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt index 45853e116eef..0b58b317dc76 100644 --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt @@ -444,7 +444,9 @@ a mapping associated with a file may contain anonymous pages: when MAP_PRIVATE and a page is modified, the file page is replaced by a private anonymous copy. "LazyFree" shows the amount of memory which is marked by madvise(MADV_FREE). The memory isn't freed immediately with madvise(). It's freed in memory -pressure if the memory is clean. +pressure if the memory is clean. Please note that the printed value might +be lower than the real value due to optimizations used in the current +implementation. If this is not desirable please file a bug report. "AnonHugePages" shows the ammount of memory backed by transparent hugepage. "ShmemPmdMapped" shows the ammount of shared (shmem/tmpfs) memory backed by huge pages. -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs