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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, laurent.monat@idquantique.com,
	thorsten.christiansson@idquantique.com,
	Enrico Jorns <ejo@pengutronix.de>,
	Jason Roberts <jason.e.roberts@intel.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <artem.bityutskiy@linux.intel.com>,
	Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@kernel.org>,
	Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>,
	Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>,
	Graham Moore <grmoore@opensource.altera.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Chuanxiao Dong <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>,
	Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@atmel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/53] mtd: nand: denali: fix erased page checking
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:36:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170322213625.4d2cf783@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1490191680-14481-11-git-send-email-yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>

On Wed, 22 Mar 2017 23:07:17 +0900
Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:

> This part is wrong in multiple ways:
> 
> [1] is_erased() is called against "buf" twice, so the second one is
> meaningless.  The second call should check chip->oob_poi.
> 
> [2] This code block is nested by double "if (check_erase_page)".
> The inner one is redundant.
> 
> [3] Erased page checking without threshold is false-positive.
> Basically, there are two ways for erased page checking:
> - read the whole of page + oob in raw transfer, then check if all
>   the data are 0xFF.
> - read the ECC-corrected page + oob, then check if *almost* all the
>   data are 0xFF (bit-flips less than ecc.strength are allowed)
> While here, it checks if all data in ECC-corrected page are 0xFF.
> This is too strong because not all of the data are 0xFF after they
> are manipulated by the ECC engine.  Proper threshold must be taken
> into account to avoid false-positive ecc_stats.failed increments.

Hm, the ECC engine should not introduce extra bitflips. I've seen 3
different cases in the various ECC engine I worked with:

1/ the ECC engine is able to correct bitflips in erased pages. In this
   case you should trust it and return the number of corrected
   bitflips or increment the ECC failed counter if it reports
   uncorrectable errors.
2/ the ECC engine is able to detect erased pages, but fails to detect
   those containing bitflips in it. In this case, you should rely on
   the default "empty page" detection and only manually check if the
   page is almost filled with 0xff when an error is reported.
3/ the ECC engine does not detect empty pages at all. In this case, you
   should check if the page empty (or almost empty) each time an ECC
   error is reported

In any case, if the ECC engine reports uncorrectable errors, it should
keep the data untouched, which means you don't have to re-read the whole
page in raw mode, only the OOB bytes.

> 
> [4] positive return value for uncorrectable bitflips
> 
> The comment of ecc->read_page() says it should return "0 if bitflips
> uncorrectable", but the current code could return a positive value
> in the case.

This one should probably be fixed in the core. Returning a negative
error core for uncorrectable errors is forbidden, but reporting the
maximum number of bitflips that have been corrected in each valid
ECC sector of the page (even if the page contains uncorrectable
sectors) does not sound like a bad idea to me.

The reason the core asks drivers to return 0 in case of uncorrectable
errors is because it updates the max_bitflips variable before testing
if the page contains uncorrectable errors [1]. Moving this statement
here [2] (in an else branch) should solve the problem for all drivers
returning positive numbers even when uncorrectable errors are detected
in one of the ECC chunk contained in a page.

[1]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/mtd/nand/nand_base.c#L1999
[2]http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/mtd/nand/nand_base.c#L2048

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-22 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-22 14:07 [PATCH v2 00/53] mtd: nand: denali: 2nd round of Denali NAND IP patch bomb Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/53] mtd: nand: allow to set only one of ECC size and ECC strength from DT Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/53] mtd: nand: use read_oob() instead of cmdfunc() for bad block check Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/53] mtd: nand: denali: remove unused CONFIG option and macros Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/53] mtd: nand: denali: remove redundant define of BANK(x) Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/53] mtd: nand: denali: remove more unused struct members Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/53] mtd: nand: denali: fix comment of denali_nand_info::flash_mem Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/53] mtd: nand: denali: consolidate INTR_STATUS__* and INTR_EN__* macros Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/53] mtd: nand: denali: introduce capability flag Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/53] mtd: nand: denali: use int where no reason to use fixed width variable Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/53] mtd: nand: denali: fix erased page checking Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 20:36   ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-03-23  5:15     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-23  8:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-22 20:56   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-23  5:04     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-23  7:56       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-24  2:43         ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-24  8:06           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/53] mtd: nand: denali: fix bitflips calculation in handle_ecc() Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 20:57   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-23  7:02     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-23  8:12       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/53] mtd: nand: denali: support HW_ECC_FIXUP capability Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 21:09   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-23  7:06     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-23  8:16       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-22 21:12   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-23  7:05     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/53] mtd: nand: denali_dt: enable HW_ECC_FIXUP for Altera SOCFPGA variant Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/53] mtd: nand: denali: support 64bit capable DMA engine Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/53] mtd: nand: denali_dt: remove dma-mask DT property Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/53] mtd: nand: denali_dt: use pdev instead of ofdev for platform_device Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/53] mtd: nand: denali: allow to override revision number Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 18/53] mtd: nand: denali: use nand_chip to hold frequently accessed data Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 19/53] mtd: nand: denali: call nand_set_flash_node() to set DT node Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 20/53] mtd: nand: denali: do not set mtd->name Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-27 15:31   ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-28 21:32     ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-28 21:40       ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-29  1:19         ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-29  7:19           ` Boris Brezillon
2017-03-29 11:30             ` Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 21/53] mtd: nand: denali: move multi device fixup code to a helper function Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 22/53] mtd: nand: denali: simplify multi device fixup code Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 23/53] mtd: nand: denali: set DEVICES_CONNECTED 1 if not set Masahiro Yamada
2017-03-22 14:07 ` [PATCH v2 24/53] mtd: nand: denali: remove meaningless writes to read-only registers Masahiro Yamada

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