From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754620AbdEQQzu (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2017 12:55:50 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:33318 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750795AbdEQQzW (ORCPT ); Wed, 17 May 2017 12:55:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 12:55:02 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Cc: Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , AKASHI Takahiro , Greg KH , torvalds@linux.intel.com, Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ciaran.farrell@suse.com, christopher.denicolo@suse.com, fontana@sharpeleven.org, copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org, One Thousand Gnomes , Paul Bolle , Peter Anvin , Joe Perches Subject: Re: Kernel modules under new copyleft licence : (was Re: [PATCH v2] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible) Message-ID: <20170517165502.b6jqdcmkgz6iyau2@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , Alan Cox , Linus Torvalds , AKASHI Takahiro , Greg KH , torvalds@linux.intel.com, Rusty Russell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , ciaran.farrell@suse.com, christopher.denicolo@suse.com, fontana@sharpeleven.org, copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org, One Thousand Gnomes , Paul Bolle , Peter Anvin , Joe Perches References: <20160701154258.GA32760@kroah.com> <87y44zhbiu.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> <20160719223851.GA2783@kroah.com> <20160722000747.GD5537@wotan.suse.de> <1470773075.12035.12.camel@linux.intel.com> <20160809201448.GE3296@wotan.suse.de> <20170511180211.GW28800@wotan.suse.de> <1494861494.7848.41.camel@linux.intel.com> <20170516232702.GL17314@wotan.suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170516232702.GL17314@wotan.suse.de> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:27:02AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > I have done the work though, however I can understand this might mean others > down the chain might need to burn some ink on this. Even if our position is: > > "we rather avoid any attorneys burning any ink and we prefer to just always > require this 'dual or' language even for licenses which corporate attorneys > have vetted as compatible" > > Wouldn't that still require a bit of ink? What ink? As far as the Kernel is concerned, it's dual-licensed GPLv2 and copyleft-next. So for all Kernel users there isn't any lawyer ink at all. The lawyer ink comes from contributors being willing to let their code contributions being dual-licensed with GPL2 plus a potentially unfamiliar, new copyright license. But that's overhead that contributors would have to deal with in either case. In fact, if you try to go single-license copyleft-next, the contributors' corporate lawyer will need to figure out the GPLv2 compatibility issue, so it's *more* overhead with the proposed single-copyright license approach. I'm not sure I understand what you believe to be the benefit of having kernel modules solely licensed under copyleft-next and relying on lawyers to say, "no really, it's GPLv2 compatible"? Could you say more about that? - Ted