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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ciaran Farrell <ciaran.farrell@suse.com>,
	Christopher De Nicolo <christopher.denicolo@suse.com>,
	Richard Fontana <fontana@sharpeleven.org>,
	Discussion and development of copyleft-next 
	<copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: [copyleft-next] Re: Kernel modules under new copyleft licence : (was Re: [PATCH v2] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 11:15:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170519151508.pzfa5f32vi46kr3r@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6Vau+O6syOW4VD4Y1j7iLEM-D129=HV=p6u8nGGN65YQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 04:29:23PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> The article I had referred to indicates how there are actually
> *several* "or" clauses, and ambiguity between what they might mean.
> Hence my surprise attorneys would exist who choose to green light all
> code with a magical "or clause".

By default, copyright law prohibits you from distributing, using, or
sublicensing any copyrighted materials at *all*.  The only reason why
you can is because of copyright license.

If one of the copyright licenses allows you to distribute, use, and/or
sublicense a particular piece of software you want to use, and you are
OK with meeting the requirements of that license, the fact that the
license might be available under a different set of terms is
irrelevant to you.

For example, if I say, "you may only use this piece of software if you
comply with the terms of the GPLv2, ***or*** if you agree to a license
which requires you to pay me ten million dollars and to run around
naked in Times Square, New York City for ten minutes, at high noon,
every Summer Soltice", so long as you are willing to agree to the
GPLv2, the fact that it is dual licensed under some other, completely
new, novel, and probably bogus license, doesn't really matter to a
lawyer who is advising someone who is contemplating using that piece
of software.

Even C compilers understand this concept:

	if (isGPLv2OK || isCopyleftNextOK) {
	   ....
	}

If "isGPLv2OK" is true, the compiler won't even bother evaluating
isCopyleftNextOK....

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-19 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 18:35 [PATCH] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 19:46   ` Greg KH
2016-06-29 20:03     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 20:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-29 21:43   ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 22:01     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 22:45       ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 23:01         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 23:22           ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 23:29             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 20:49 ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-30 22:50   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-30 22:53 ` [PATCH v2] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-01 15:42   ` Greg KH
2016-07-18  3:26     ` Rusty Russell
2016-07-19 22:38       ` Greg KH
2016-07-19 23:29         ` Richard Fontana
2016-07-21  6:04         ` Rusty Russell
2016-07-22  0:07         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 20:04           ` Kernel modules under new copyleft licence : (was Re: [PATCH v2] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible) Alan Cox
2016-08-09 20:14             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10  1:25               ` [copyleft-next] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10  2:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-11 18:02                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-15 15:18                   ` Alan Cox
2017-05-16 23:27                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17 13:36                       ` Alan Cox
2017-05-17 16:55                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-17 17:41                         ` [copyleft-next] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-18 22:12                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-18 23:04                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-18 23:08                               ` David Lang
2017-05-18 23:29                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 15:15                                   ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2017-05-19 11:31                               ` Alan Cox
2017-05-19 15:09                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 17:59                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 18:04                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 22:55                                       ` Alan Cox
2017-05-25 17:05                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-25 17:31                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-25 20:14                                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-25 22:54                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 21:46             ` Richard Fontana

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