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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Vikram Mulukutla <markivx@codeaurora.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	wagi@monom.org, dwmw2@infradead.org, rafal@milecki.pl,
	arend.vanspriel@broadcom.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	yi1.li@linux.intel.com, atull@opensource.altera.com,
	moritz.fischer@ettus.com, pmladek@suse.com,
	johannes.berg@intel.com, emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com,
	luciano.coelho@intel.com, kvalo@codeaurora.org, luto@kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, keescook@chromium.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:33:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623163323.GM21846@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621004934.GH4820@linaro.org>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:49:35AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 07:22:19PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 09:27:45AM -0700, Vikram Mulukutla wrote:
> > > 
> > > perhaps a light
> > > internal rework inside firmware_class might be more suitable towards the
> > > extensibility goal while keeping driver API usage as simple as it is today
> > > (even if you hate my patch for various reasons)?
> > > 
> > > [1] - https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la/kernel/msm-3.18/commit/drivers/base/firmware_class.c?h=msm-3.18&id=7aa7efd3c150840369739893a84bd1d9f9774319
> > 
> > What you did is but one step I took, your changes make it easier to shuffle
> > data around internally. Its not sufficient to clean things up well enough, for
> > instance look at the "firmware behavior options" which are cleaned up in this
> > patch 1/5. That's been one pain on our side for a while, people understanding
> > when a flag applies or a feature, and making sure we document it all.
> > 
> > Then, one of the end goals is to provide extensibility, this is to allow users
> > to *pass* similar type of struct for either a sync or async call. Without this
> > the API remains unflexible and I predict we'll end up with the same situation
> > later anyway.
> > 
> > The approach I took uses an internal struct for passing required data for the
> > private internal API use. Then it also provides a public struct which can be
> > used to grow requirements to make only *new* API easily extensible.
> > 
> > So we need all three things to move forward.
> 
> Given the discussions here, it would be better to split your [1/5] and
> [2/5] into more smaller pieces, say,
>   * re-factor the old APIs with introducing private fw_desc

So patch 1/5 introduces 3 structs:

o struct driver_data_req_params  - used for user specified parameters
o struct driver_data_priv_params - used for internal use only
o struct driver_data_params - stiches both of the above together,
  only for internal use

I could certainly split the patch to introduce each separately.

>   * add new APIs with extra public arguments

This was split out already, patch 2 is the first patch introducing new API.

>   * extend new APIs per-feature
>       - sync/async callbacks

I suppose the base would be what we have today, only in new form. And sure,
I can add the features one by one...

>       - API version, and so on

Right.

> This way, you can illustrate how your approach evolves and it may
> mitigate people's concern about how complicated it is on the surface,
> allowing for discussing each of aspects of new APIs separately.

This makes sense. Greg, does this make sense to you? Or are you stone cold
against all this?

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-30  3:25 [PATCH v6 0/5] firmware: add driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-30  3:25 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-06  7:26   ` Luca Coelho
2017-04-27  2:05     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-30  3:25 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] firmware: add extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-10 12:42   ` Coelho, Luciano
2017-04-11  8:01     ` takahiro.akashi
2017-04-27  3:23       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-27  3:16     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-27  5:44       ` Luca Coelho
2017-04-27  8:04         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-27  6:09       ` Luca Coelho
2017-04-27 10:31         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-13  9:36   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-04-28  0:51     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-28  3:19       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-04-29  4:36         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-30  3:25 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] test: add new driver_data load tester Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-11  8:32   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-04-28  1:45     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 10:46       ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-05-11 17:11         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17 22:45           ` Li, Yi
2017-05-19 18:31             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 18:12         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 18:26         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 18:32           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12  0:28             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-05-12 15:59               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17  9:08                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-05-17 15:38                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-12  0:20           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-05-12 15:52             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-13 18:46               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-03-30  3:25 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] iwlwifi: convert to use driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-10 13:19   ` Luca Coelho
2017-04-28  0:56     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-28 12:17       ` Luca Coelho
2017-03-30  3:25 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] brcmfmac: don't warn user if requested nvram fails Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-04-27  0:49   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49 ` [PATCH v7 0/5] firmware: add driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49   ` [PATCH v7 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 18:17     ` Li, Yi
2017-05-11 18:28       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49   ` [PATCH v7 2/5] firmware: add extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49   ` [PATCH v7 3/5] test: add new driver_data load tester Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-11 10:10     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-05-11 17:00       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-15 18:23     ` [PATCH v8] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49   ` [PATCH v7 4/5] firmware: document the extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-02  8:49   ` [PATCH v7 5/5] iwlwifi: convert to use " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10   ` [PATCH v8 0/5] firmware: add " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10     ` [PATCH v8 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10     ` [PATCH v8 2/5] firmware: add extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10     ` [PATCH v8 3/5] test: add new driver_data load tester Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10     ` [PATCH v8 4/5] firmware: document the extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 19:10     ` [PATCH v8 5/5] iwlwifi: convert to use " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:33     ` [PATCH v8 0/5] firmware: add " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:39       ` [PATCH v9 " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:39         ` [PATCH v9 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-13  9:05           ` Greg KH
2017-06-13 10:31             ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-06-13 13:17               ` Greg KH
2017-06-13 14:12                 ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-06-13 15:32                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-13 15:50                   ` Greg KH
2017-06-13 19:40             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 15:57               ` Li, Yi
2017-06-17 19:38               ` Greg KH
2017-06-19  7:33                 ` Johannes Berg
2017-06-19 19:41                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-20  1:26                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-06-19 19:35                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-23 15:51                   ` Greg KH
2017-06-23 22:43                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-23 23:09                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24  0:48                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-24 12:39                           ` Greg KH
2017-06-26 17:33                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-26 18:19                               ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-06-26 21:29                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-27  2:28                               ` Vikram Mulukutla
2017-06-27 17:25                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-24 12:40                       ` Greg KH
2017-06-26 15:50                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-23 15:59                   ` Greg KH
2017-06-23 22:47                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-19 22:51                 ` Li, Yi
2017-06-20  1:48                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-06-20 15:20                     ` Li, Yi
2017-06-20 16:27                 ` Vikram Mulukutla
2017-06-20 17:22                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-21  0:49                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2017-06-23 16:33                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-06-05 21:39         ` [PATCH v9 2/5] firmware: add extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:39         ` [PATCH v9 3/5] test: add new driver_data load tester Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:39         ` [PATCH v9 4/5] firmware: document the extensible driver data API Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-05 21:39         ` [PATCH v9 5/5] iwlwifi: convert to use " Luis R. Rodriguez

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