From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752285AbdGDPPH (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jul 2017 11:15:07 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:45466 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750872AbdGDPPG (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Jul 2017 11:15:06 -0400 DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 1E62C22B54 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=helgaas@kernel.org Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:15:02 -0500 From: Bjorn Helgaas To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Marc Gonzalez , Mark Rutland , Mason , Marc Zyngier , linux-pci , Thibaud Cornic , Ard Biesheuvel , LKML , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , Linux ARM Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/3] PCI: Add tango PCIe host bridge support Message-ID: <20170704151502.GH13824@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> References: <987fac41-80dc-f1d0-ec0b-91ae57b91bfd@sigmadesigns.com> <20170702231811.GJ18324@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <79382219-c730-da78-3e5f-5abf3173d7ac@sigmadesigns.com> <20170703134031.GG13824@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20170703181128.GD4902@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170703181128.GD4902@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:11:28PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:40:31AM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > The problem is serializing vs. memory accesses, since they don't use > > any wrappers. However, they are ioremapped(), so it's at least > > conceivable that another solution would be to use VM to trap those > > accesses. I'm not a VM person, so I don't know whether that's > > feasible in Linux. > > Bjorn, > > You're forgetting that MMIO (iow, memory returned by ioremap()) must > be accessed through the appropriate accessors, and must not be > directly dereferenced in C. (We do have buggy drivers that do that > but they are buggy, and in many cases are getting attention to fix > that.) Oh, you're right, thank you! I guess you're referring to readb() and friends. I haven't found an actual prohibition on directly dereferencing addresses returned from ioremap(), but Documentation/driver-api/device-io.rst is clear that they're suitable for passing to readb(), etc. I recently told someone else my mistaken idea that ioremap() must return a valid virtual address. I wish I remembered who it was, so I could correct that. Documentation/DMA-API-HOWTO.txt also suggests that ioremap() returns a virtual address -- I think I wrote that, and maybe that virtual address reference should be tweaked a bit. Another wrinkle is that the pci_mmap_resource() interface is exposed via sysfs and allows direct userspace mmap of PCI MMIO resources. In that case, there is no accessor available. I wonder if we need some way to disable this mmap when readb() is non-trivial. Bjorn