From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752790AbdGEMdg (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:33:36 -0400 Received: from mezzanine.sirena.org.uk ([106.187.55.193]:45576 "EHLO mezzanine.sirena.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752729AbdGEMde (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:33:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:33:04 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Mason Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux , Bjorn Helgaas , Marc Gonzalez , Mark Rutland , Marc Zyngier , linux-pci , Thibaud Cornic , Ard Biesheuvel , LKML , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Thomas Gleixner , Linux ARM Message-ID: <20170705123304.extc5iswhwjepwyp@sirena.org.uk> References: <987fac41-80dc-f1d0-ec0b-91ae57b91bfd@sigmadesigns.com> <20170702231811.GJ18324@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <79382219-c730-da78-3e5f-5abf3173d7ac@sigmadesigns.com> <20170703134031.GG13824@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com> <20170703181128.GD4902@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> <0cd65cda-9a3d-8c1b-1ee9-c48f63959140@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fkjptutfsxnlabm5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0cd65cda-9a3d-8c1b-1ee9-c48f63959140@free.fr> X-Cookie: Youth is the trustee of posterity. User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306 (1.8.0) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:470:1f1d:6b5::3 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: broonie@sirena.org.uk Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/3] PCI: Add tango PCIe host bridge support X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 02 Aug 2016 21:08:31 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mezzanine.sirena.org.uk); Unknown failure Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --fkjptutfsxnlabm5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 01:59:55AM +0200, Mason wrote: > Do larger SoC vendors have HW devs working closely with > Linux devs, to avoid these design bloopers? Yes, or just internal software teams in general - hardware designs tend to be a lot more usable if there's good dialogue with users about what's useful and what isn't. It's going to happen at some point anyway when people can't get the chip working well. --fkjptutfsxnlabm5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAllc3H8ACgkQJNaLcl1U h9BSogf8CecwiRAi+trNsmUK16kSJeNzOtmSxMAOgn7foREKBLBqlxu/k6ZcBOTh axM1t1OdWTydkFfV+g0+qFX62Plbi2hrNRT7/F45WTtOaevKj4qmds7ca/A7a8Ej jAOeL7QveC/bY0JPZ79+MK+tf/8GsGpcJGavypTJ84/c5qcwlBICV8GuP3Cn1oWy scTTakHr874H1/j0tiDrz2IBtO2rI7LxAOaOJnfxUMjvBh5SpKUND9WKfr4Px9bI 1fHezYoNml2FWX89H1ImoLFV5U6mmsrJ7u57G4AO407YDm0sin6jxlRKaHG8/D7u zU6DMZsIwouthZ+ECXW1hAaG+CREDQ== =vJlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fkjptutfsxnlabm5--