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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Nellans <dnellans@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Balbir Singh <bsingharora@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm/hmm: documents how device memory is accounted in rss and memcg
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:26:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170714132611.GS2618@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170713211532.970-7-jglisse@redhat.com>

On Thu 13-07-17 17:15:32, Jérôme Glisse wrote:
> For now we account device memory exactly like a regular page in
> respect to rss counters and memory cgroup. We do this so that any
> existing application that starts using device memory without knowing
> about it will keep running unimpacted. This also simplify migration
> code.
> 
> We will likely revisit this choice once we gain more experience with
> how device memory is use and how it impacts overall memory resource
> management. For now we believe this is a good enough choice.
> 
> Note that device memory can not be pin. Nor by device driver, nor
> by GUP thus device memory can always be free and unaccounted when
> a process exit.

I have to look at the implementation but this gives a good idea of what
is going on and why.

> Signed-off-by: Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
> Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>

Acked-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

> ---
>  Documentation/vm/hmm.txt | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 40 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/vm/hmm.txt b/Documentation/vm/hmm.txt
> index 192dcdb38bd1..4d3aac9f4a5d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/vm/hmm.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/vm/hmm.txt
> @@ -15,6 +15,15 @@ section present the new migration helper that allow to leverage the device DMA
>  engine.
>  
>  
> +1) Problems of using device specific memory allocator:
> +2) System bus, device memory characteristics
> +3) Share address space and migration
> +4) Address space mirroring implementation and API
> +5) Represent and manage device memory from core kernel point of view
> +6) Migrate to and from device memory
> +7) Memory cgroup (memcg) and rss accounting
> +
> +
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  
>  1) Problems of using device specific memory allocator:
> @@ -342,3 +351,34 @@ that happens then the finalize_and_map() can catch any pages that was not
>  migrated. Note those page were still copied to new page and thus we wasted
>  bandwidth but this is considered as a rare event and a price that we are
>  willing to pay to keep all the code simpler.
> +
> +
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> +
> +7) Memory cgroup (memcg) and rss accounting
> +
> +For now device memory is accounted as any regular page in rss counters (either
> +anonymous if device page is use for anonymous, file if device page is use for
> +file back page or shmem if device page is use for share memory). This is a
> +deliberate choice to keep existing application that might start using device
> +memory without knowing about it to keep runing unimpacted.
> +
> +Drawbacks is that OOM killer might kill an application using a lot of device
> +memory and not a lot of regular system memory and thus not freeing much system
> +memory. We want to gather more real world experience on how application and
> +system react under memory pressure in the presence of device memory before
> +deciding to account device memory differently.
> +
> +
> +Same decision was made for memory cgroup. Device memory page are accounted
> +against same memory cgroup a regular page would be accounted to. This does
> +simplify migration to and from device memory. This also means that migration
> +back from device memory to regular memory can not fail because it would
> +go above memory cgroup limit. We might revisit this choice latter on once we
> +get more experience in how device memory is use and its impact on memory
> +resource control.
> +
> +
> +Note that device memory can never be pin nor by device driver nor through GUP
> +and thus such memory is always free upon process exit. Or when last reference
> +is drop in case of share memory or file back memory.
> -- 
> 2.13.0

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-14 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-13 21:15 [PATCH 0/6] Cache coherent device memory (CDM) with HMM v5 Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/zone-device: rename DEVICE_PUBLIC to DEVICE_HOST Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-17  9:09   ` Balbir Singh
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/device-public-memory: device memory cache coherent with CPU v4 Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-13 23:01   ` Balbir Singh
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/hmm: add new helper to hotplug CDM memory region v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm/memcontrol: allow to uncharge page without using page->lru field Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-17  9:10   ` Balbir Singh
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm/memcontrol: support MEMORY_DEVICE_PRIVATE and MEMORY_DEVICE_PUBLIC v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-17  9:15   ` Balbir Singh
2017-07-13 21:15 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/hmm: documents how device memory is accounted in rss and memcg Jérôme Glisse
2017-07-14 13:26   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-07-18  3:26 ` [PATCH 0/6] Cache coherent device memory (CDM) with HMM v5 Bob Liu
2017-07-18 15:38   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-07-19  1:46     ` Bob Liu
2017-07-19  2:25       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-07-19  9:09         ` Bob Liu
2017-07-20 15:03           ` Jerome Glisse
2017-07-21  1:15             ` Bob Liu
2017-07-21  1:41               ` Jerome Glisse
2017-07-21  2:10                 ` Bob Liu
2017-07-21 12:01                   ` Bob Liu
2017-07-21 15:21                     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-07-21  3:48                 ` Dan Williams
2017-07-21 15:22                   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-09-05 19:36                   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-09-09 23:22                     ` Bob Liu
2017-09-11 23:36                       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-09-12  1:02                         ` Bob Liu
2017-09-12 16:17                           ` Jerome Glisse
2017-09-26  9:56                         ` Bob Liu
2017-09-26 16:16                           ` Jerome Glisse
2017-09-30  2:57                             ` Bob Liu
2017-09-30 22:49                               ` Jerome Glisse
2017-10-11 13:15                                 ` Bob Liu
2017-10-12 15:37                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-11-16  2:10                                     ` chet l
2017-11-16  2:44                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-11-16  3:23                                         ` chetan L
2017-11-16  3:29                                           ` chetan L
2017-11-16 21:29                                             ` Jerome Glisse
2017-11-16 22:41                                               ` chetan L
2017-11-16 23:11                                                 ` Jerome Glisse

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