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From: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrey Rybainin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Douglas Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Michael Davidson <md@google.com>,
	Greg Hackmann <ghackmann@google.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Stephen Hines <srhines@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Bernhard.Rosenkranzer@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "x86/uaccess: Add stack frame output operand in get_user() inline asm"
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:50:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170719215038.GO95735@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170719174630.kz5g553evcrnirmr@treble>

El Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:46:31PM -0500 Josh Poimboeuf ha dit:

> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:57:04PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > El Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 04:34:06PM -0500 Josh Poimboeuf ha dit:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:12:45PM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > > > El Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 03:34:16PM -0500 Josh Poimboeuf ha dit:
> > > > > And yet another one to try (clobbering sp) :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > > > > index 11433f9..21f0c39 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h
> > > > > @@ -166,12 +166,12 @@ __typeof__(__builtin_choose_expr(sizeof(x) > sizeof(0UL), 0ULL, 0UL))
> > > > >  ({									\
> > > > >  	int __ret_gu;							\
> > > > >  	register __inttype(*(ptr)) __val_gu asm("%"_ASM_DX);		\
> > > > > -	register void *__sp asm(_ASM_SP);				\
> > > > >  	__chk_user_ptr(ptr);						\
> > > > >  	might_fault();							\
> > > > > -	asm volatile("call __get_user_%P4"				\
> > > > > -		     : "=a" (__ret_gu), "=r" (__val_gu), "+r" (__sp)	\
> > > > > -		     : "0" (ptr), "i" (sizeof(*(ptr))));		\
> > > > > +	asm volatile("call __get_user_%P3"				\
> > > > > +		     : "=a" (__ret_gu), "=r" (__val_gu)			\
> > > > > +		     : "0" (ptr), "i" (sizeof(*(ptr)))			\
> > > > > +		     : "sp");						\
> > > > >  	(x) = (__force __typeof__(*(ptr))) __val_gu;			\
> > > > >  	__builtin_expect(__ret_gu, 0);					\
> > > > >  })
> > > > 
> > > > This compiles with both gcc and clang, clang does not corrupt the
> > > > stack pointer. I wouldn't be able to tell though if it forces a stack
> > > > frame if it doesn't already exist, as the original patch intends.
> > > 
> > > Whether it forces the stack frame on clang is a very minor issue
> > > compared to the double fault.
> > 
> > I totally agree, I was mainly concerned about not breaking the
> > solution that currently works with gcc.
> > 
> > > That really only matters when you want to use
> > > CONFIG_STACK_VALIDATION to get 100% reliable stacktraces with frame
> > > pointers.  And that feature is currently very GCC-specific.  So you
> > > probably don't need to worry about that for now, at least until you want
> > > to do live patching with a clang-compiled kernel.
> > 
> > Eventually I expect that there will be interest in live patching
> > clang-compiled kernels, however at this stage it probably isn't an
> > overly important feature.
> > 
> > > IIRC, clobbering SP does at least force the stack frame on GCC, though I
> > > need to double check that.  I can try to work up an official patch in
> > > the next week or so (need to do some testing first).
> > 
> > Sounds great.
> > 
> > Thanks again for looking into this and coming up with a solution!
> 
> After doing some testing, I don't think this approach is going to work
> after all.  In addition to forcing the stack frame, it also causes GCC
> to add an unnecessary extra instruction to the epilogue of each affected
> function:
> 
>   lea    -0x10(%rbp),%rsp
> 
> We shouldn't be inserting extra instructions like that.  I also don't
> think the other suggestion of turning the '__sp' register variable into
> a global variable is a very good solution either, as that just wastes
> memory for no reason.
> 
> It would be nice if both compilers could agree on a way to support this.

Thanks for the update, Josh.

I will ask compiler folks to bring this up with LLVM.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-19 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 21:27 [PATCH] Revert "x86/uaccess: Add stack frame output operand in get_user() inline asm" Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-12 22:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 22:20   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-12 22:35     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 22:36       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-12 23:22         ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 18:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 18:47             ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 19:25               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 19:38                 ` Michael Davidson
2017-07-13 20:18                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 20:20               ` Andrey Rybainin
2017-07-13 20:34                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 21:12                   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:34                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-13 21:57                       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-19 17:46                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 21:50                           ` Matthias Kaehlcke [this message]
2017-07-20 10:01                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-20 15:18                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 15:30                               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-20 20:56                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-21  9:13                                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-07-21 13:24                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  0:38                                   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-29  0:55                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  0:58                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-29  1:06                                       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:14                 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:25                   ` Andrey Rybainin
2017-07-13 21:43                     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2017-07-13 21:52                       ` Josh Poimboeuf

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